Talk:School gun raffle

List of schools
It seems to me that the list of examples is more illustrative than the raw description. I vote it stays. I am open to well reasoned arguments elsewise. Rhadow (talk) 17:03, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The only thing it illustrates is that it has happened--but that's it. Were they recurring things? Were they disputed things? Did they do it once and then decided it was indeed a boneheaded idea? Aren't you placing an undue burden on those schools by blackballing them as "schools that raffle off guns" even if they only did it once? Drmies (talk) 17:16, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Well,, opinions differ, and this is UNDUE. Drmies (talk) 17:15, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Drmies, I disagree that it is unbalanced. And why is your opinion more important than mine? It is as you observe, an opinion. Rhadow (talk) 17:25, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Because I'm better-looking than you are? Who said mine is more important than yours? But I have not seen you present an argument. Drmies (talk) 18:10, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * If this were an academic article, it would have several sections in the body: the hypothesis, discussion of observations, and predictions based on the hypothesis. We have the hypothesis section: the definition. We should have the discussion of the observations: the list of schools participating. This is an encyclopedia, so predictions are not appropriate. I believe you Drmies bring some POV to the discussion when you describe school gun raffles as a boneheaded idea.  These schools, in their localities, find this to be an effective fund raising method. The list serves to demonstrate that the method is not rare, even if it is not spread across the United States. Rhadow (talk) 12:47, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Le sigh. I didn't say it was a boneheaded idea; I said it might have been and that's why a school might not have done it more than once. You have not addressed the problems I pointed out: lists can be misleading since your list enumerates single instances without context. I have no idea why you'd want to compare this with an academic article. Drmies (talk) 23:04, 23 February 2018 (UTC)