Talk:Schooner Te Vega

Article title
I have a feeling that this article's title should probably be Schooner Te Vega. I think this is correct because the ship seems to have spent the majority of it's lifespan with that name. Granted that it was orginialy Etak from 1930 until 1942? and then USS Juniata for 3 years, however it has been Te Vega from the mid-1950s until the 1990s. Opinions? -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 22:22, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * You can change the entry of you like; I wrote 95% of this article, and sailed aboard Te Vega as a Flint School student. Btw I reformatted the article, since the data box not only referred to Juniata only, but contained inaccuracies. The dates of entry and exit of USN service were correct, however.


 * The link at the bottom to the USN period ought to be sufficient for the war years (?), and has the same photograph of the ship sailing in San Francisco Bay. ~Andarin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andarin (talk • contribs) 23:26, 11 September 2009
 * Thats ok, we'll get everything sorted out eventually. I want to get the sources for this information correctly entered, and make sure the references are correct.  -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 00:12, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

In the press/ In books sections
I don't know that these sections are really appropriate for an article such as this. Basically because they don't really add to the article. However it is quite incredible the wealth of documented sources regarding this ship. I suggest that these sections be moved the talk page for the time being and these sources incorporated into references of the article. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 00:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I understand your point...but I don't like to see useful info removed, especially info that is of a primary-source nature. Btw one defect with the Wiki system is quite apparent when constructing a history of a classic ship, viz. the preference for info that is "readily publicly available." That stuff is almost all lore, and no fact. Notice that for the Te Vega even the dimensions of the ship change depending on which source is consulted. (I've seen the original plans and have read the (German) journal article, which lists the dimensions at launch.)

This article is maybe only 10% finished. I, and a university professor who's writing a history, and my classmate Palmer Stevens (his pages liked at the bottom) have tons of primary-source material to add...at some point.

Plenty of people have sailed on the Te Vega. I'm always hoping for input from them, or at least from someone who's sailed a tall ship, or knows what's entailed in writing a history of one.

~Andarin

Merge
Shouldn't USS Juniata (IX-77) merged into this one? Sebastian scha. (talk) 12:07, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Already been there
I don't know why we're still talking about this; the other article should just be deleted. Its text is lifted more or less directly from a readily available public domain site, and contains inaccuracies in any case. ~Andarin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.114.20.49 (talk) 19:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge is finally completed. Brad (talk) 21:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Can't someone arrange the WW2 photo so that it looks decent?

Btw that photo was taken on SF Bay, and that's Angel Island in the background. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andarin (talk • contribs) 19:44, 6 November 2010 (UTC)