Talk:Science in classical antiquity

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The theory of refraction attributed to Plato does not appear in his Timaeus, nor is it attributed to Plato in the mainstream literature on the history of optics. The account seems to fit the experiment described by Ptolemy in his optics, and most accounts see it as a case of typical Ptolemaic "data smoothing," in which measured data is smoothed in terms of Ptolemy's prior assumptions about the bending of light. This section (and the independent article on Plato's Theory of Refraction) should be deleted -- or retitled as "Ptolemy's theory of refraction" and revised to reflect the historical literature on Ptolemy.--SteveMcCluskey 00:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Is the term Pre-experimental science valid?
I was reading G.E.R. Lloyd's Early Greek Science... and came across a passage (pp. 139-142) where he spells out the uses and limits of experiments in the Greek "inquiry concerning nature" from the Pythagoreans to Ptolemy. In a nutshell, he documents enough experiments to demonstrate that the whole term Pre-experimental science is invalid -- or at the very least, expresses a particular point of view which has been seriously called into question.

I'd like some suggestions on how this article might be restructured to take better account of the complex nature of early Western scientific activity. My preference would be to shift the title from Pre-experimental science to Greek and Roman science, but that runs into the existing section on Greek and Hellenistic science in the article on History of science in early cultures. Any other ideas would be welcome. --SteveMcCluskey 01:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Major edit in Progress
I've changed the title of this section and am in the process of making a major edit in my user space. I'll return the revised version to this page shortly. --SteveMcCluskey 19:13, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The working version is now back in article space; I'm erasing the draft from my user space. --SteveMcCluskey 17:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

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Generalisation of western topics as global
the title is very deceptive, it seems to indicate the world's history in classical antiquity but in reality, it is the western and exclusively greek and roman topic, so why is this topic titled in a very deceptive way? These articles only serve to propagate eurocentric history of the world, and even though english language is a western language and the western english speaking world may use it in a cunning way to impose their history as world history, it will only be deception. i propose that this title should be changed into western classical antiquity because it was followed only in the western world Rameezraja001 (talk) 06:08, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * So, was there an Eastern Classical antiquity? Or American? The term "Classical antiquity" refers to the Mediterranean. Joshua Jonathan  - Let's talk!  03:53, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I mean, they're not wrong that the concept of Classical antiquity is derived from an explicitly Eurocentric basis. But you're not wrong that it's a geographically delineated term. I'd suggest that should probably re-read WP:RGW - but there's a reasonable discussion to be had about how we structure articles WRT history. Simonm223 (talk) 19:20, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

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Kiswahili ni somo lenye uwezo mkubwa sana wakufikiri kama ukilisoma Luna city vingi 154.74.143.39 (talk) 18:39, 7 September 2022 (UTC)