Talk:Scott Peterson/Archive 1

"fertilizer salesman"
media reports frequently give Scott the title of "fertilizer salesman". Is this a valid description of his job? Does he actually sell fertilizer, and not lawn chemicals, or crop pestcides? Does he do any actual selling? "Fertilizer Salesman" seems to be a euphemism for "BS talker". (I know this term is not in the article, but I bet it is somewhere in the history) 66.173.192.96 19:50, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

found a more accurate description of his job -

Not only does Peterson have to try to outperform the competition each day, dealers say,he must do it with more expensive products. He markets premium fertilizers and minerals,including acids, iron, boron and other materials that are applied periodically to protect the valley's crops and help generate plentiful harvests. Peterson's job is to spreadTradecorp's name through the ag community and get its products into the hands of farmers.

http://www.findlaci2003.us/scott-tradecorp.html

so I changed the first paragraph 66.173.192.96 19:10, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Third and fourth images
I have to remove the third and fourth images temporarily from the article. The reason is that I wish to upload the new version of these images, so as to avoid them conflict if not removed. If done, I will put them back on the same article where they were. Thank you, Adnghiem501 22:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Many, speculated, may have, theories
Moved this sentence from the article to Talk:
 * Many involved in the case speculated that Peterson may have planned to flee to Mexico, or Peterson, who knew he was being followed by police and had in fact confronted them earlier that day, was on his way to murder Amber Frey; with Peterson arrested these theories were never proved.

This tells the reader nothing, except the uncited possible fact that he "had in fact confronted them earlier". -213.219.160.64 12:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I've added several cite needed tags throughout, and am moving this uncited speculation from Motive:
 * It is believed that this stemmed from comments made jokingly by fellow golf buddies and that Scott's insecurity lead to him committing the murder. Alternatively, some have claimed Peterson murdered Laci out of a desire to return to the "bachelor" lifestyle, where he would be free from the obligations of his impending family life; however, it was pointed out that Amber Frey herself had a child. It is not clear if any motive for the crime was presented to the jury as such.

The paragraph begins stating the affair as motive was not presented to the jury, but that the prosecutor claimed the affair indicated bad character, but then the above weasel colony pops up, obscuring who if anyone said what. To me it seems dubious that the court case discussed these claims, but if it did, please reinsert with citations. -213.219.160.64 13:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Merge from Laci Peterson
On the Laci Peterson article, I have suggested merging the investigation and trial sections into this article, since they really deal with Scott Peterson and the general standard in crime journalism is to cover cases with reference to the defendant, not the victim. --Tysto 17:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't believe in merging the two articles (Scott Peterson and Laci Peterson), but I do believe there should be a third article about the trial, what came before it, and what came after it. On the other hand, we could just keep the trial and everything else right here in Scott Peterson's article.  Whatever the outcome, there's no reason for Laci Peterson's article to contain as much as it does on the trial. Stiles 01:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Circumstantial
The article uses the word "circumstantial" as though it has a negative connotation. Many cases are based solely on circumstantial evidence & this does not in itself render the jury's verdict less valid. Which would most people believe more readily ? A) you wake up in the morning and you see the ground, trees, etc. wet & assume it must have rained overnight or B) you hear someone say they thought they saw it rain?


 * Actually, answer (B) would constitute HEARSAY evidence, and therefore not be admissable in court, so you have presented only one viable option.


 * Circumstantial evidence *does* carry much less weight with jurors, judges, and attorneys than direct evidence. It is possible to twist and turn almost any set of circumstances to cast an unfavorable light upon the accused.


 * I think the point he was making with B was that the person making the claim they saw it rain was on the witness stand. keith 11:44, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

There's circumstantial and circumstantial. If the defendant is seen traveling to Point X with the victim and then seen traveling away from Point X without the victim, that's circumstantial evidence against him (if I understand the jargon correctly). The evidence mentioned here, though, is Scott's behavior consistent with murder but also consistent with lesser character flaws, such as adultery, not to mention a normal desire for privacy. This weak logical connection is what's connoted, I think, when "circumstantial" is used pejoratively. (I wonder how many innocent people have been convicted because they did something furtive out of a fear of appearing guilty. Fear rarely makes us wiser.) &mdash;Tamfang 23:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Circumstantial evidence is great evidence. If the MPD had found a large bloodstain in the bed, in the boat, in the truck or in the warehouse that would be great evidence. If they had found her body in his locked warehouse that also would be substantive. What the prosecution had in this case was not circumstantial evidence nor direct evidence. What they had was happenstance and gossip. What they used was sympathy for the victims and alleged bad character and, as in the case of Douglas S. Mouser, and they also used confusion and a ridiculously long trial to befuddle the jury and get a conviction. Too many people fail to realize what circumstantial evidence is and what it is not. Washing your dirty car is not circumstantial evidence. Power washing the interior or removing and burning the car seats is. It is something which is incapable of innocent explanation. Not telling your relatives you bought a boat is not circumstantial evidence. Telling every policeman about it is evidence of innocence.--A Voice of Sanity 02:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
A disambiguation page was created even though there are only two Scott Petersons and one is hugely more famous than the other. A link to the writer named Scott Peterson should go at the top of the murderer's article. I added this to the top of the talk page to make it more visible, so we can get a consensus. -- Kjkolb 05:44, 8 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~ 


 * Support -- Kjkolb 05:44, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Support --Nanouk 15:41, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Support IF it says 'Convicted of murder' and not 'murderer' -- A Voice of Sanity 16:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Add any additional comments

Scott Peterson redirects here - should this page be moved back to that base, or are there other Scott Petersons who need to be organized via a disambiguation page? ESkog | Talk 19:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I would say this could be moved back to base. The only other Scott Peterson on the disambig page is a staff writer for the Christian Science Monitor who doesn't have a Wiki page.  No disrespect, but I think it's fair to say that roughly 0% of the people who look up Scott Peterson on Wiki wish to read about the journalist.  I'd say this article has every reason to be moved.  Objections? --Marco Passarani 21:36, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Since there's a link to the disambig page at the top of this article, I'd say go ahead and move it back to Scott Peterson. --Nanouk 11:44, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed from Scott Peterson (convicted murderer) to Scott Peterson as the result of a move request. Rd232 talk 16:38, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

User impersonation
"Scott Peterson" claims to be a dummyand fool. While I'm glad he can join the celebrity ranks of Wikipedian users, like Hilary Duff and Jerry Seinfeld, I'm a little supicious of the claim. Requests for comment/Scott Peterson --  user:zanimum

He also has/had an account on MySpace.com - yeah, right. --A Voice of Sanity 18:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I did some cleanup
I just did a big edit of this article, to make it read a bit more encyclopedic. I changed the order of some text as well, to make it make more sense. Anything that still reads "citation needed" is because I truly could NOT find information to support it on the Web. I'm reluctant to just delete those statements, since I'm still pretty new to this. LBoogey 02:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)LBoogey

what / where is the murder weapon? where did the murder occur? what time did the murder take place? was there any physical evidence?

Early life
The last three sentances in the Early Life section doesn't make any sense. Scott's middle name has always been Lee. He also has not had any other children then the one that Laci was pregnant with. I am going to delete all three sentances untill there is vailidity to them.ShadowWriter 04:46, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

NPOV?
So throughout this article it states that most of the evidence was circumstantial, that Scott was victimized and questioned the validity of charging a man for killing a fetus. I've read that Peterson is a wikipedian himself, did he edit this friggin page?

The Peterson page was NPOV. It no longer is. It has been completely biased towards the guilty POV. He has been convicted. He is still not a murderer. Considering the abysmal record of US juries and the fact that even the judge recognized how fraught with appeals the case is, it is reckless to assume his conviction will stand.

Where exactly was Laci killed? What proof is offered?

When exactly was Laci killed? What proof is offered?

Why exactly was Laci killed? What proof is offered?

What exactly was the way that Laci was killed (Murder? Neglect?)? What proof is offered?

Without answers to these very basic questions, how can any conviction stand? And how can all of the declarative statements on that page be supported? --A Voice of Sanity 02:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * While I was surprised at the guilty verdict, in light of the requirement of no reasonable doubt, and the presence of circumstantial evidence only, the fact is that, in order for the conviction to stand, the answers to the questions you offer do not have to be supplied. Under U.S. Law, only matters of law are appealable. Only if the appelate court finds that a violation or error of law occurred during the trial that may impact the final verdict, can the ruling be reversed or remanded. So--the likelihood that Peterson will have the verdict reversed is small. In any case, the answers to your questions are moot. No one has to answer those questions any longer; the jury has already done so. 66.108.4.183 07:41, 9 September 2006 (UTC) Nash's Companion
 * It is perfectly reasonable to question this verdict given that no one can say where Laci was killed, when she was killed, why she was killed or what was the cause of death. Even murder was implied - it could not be proven. Further, all of the evidence against Peterson was capable of being interpreted quite reasonably in his favor. Given that, and the jury's own statements both after the trial and in their 'book', it is clear that the conviction was only obtained through the very worst sort of prejudicial attack on the defendant. As for "... the jury has already done so," this could only apply if no conviction in the US had ever been overturned by extra legal means - such as the confession of the actual killer or research by journalism or law students to quote examples. You might wish to contemplate the case of Jeffrey Scott Hornoff if you believe that to be true. A Voice of Sanity 23:11, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Unconfirmed rumor
This may be nothing. The citation leads to National Enquirer, reknown for trash. Just the same, if it turns out to be anything, we have tracked it. -- meatclerk 07:13, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

On September 21, 2006, fellow inmates savagely beat Peterson in an apparent murder attempt. 
 * There's no evidence this did happen and no reason it would have. Considering some of those incarcerated there, such as Richard Ramirez and Charles Ng, Peterson would be very low on any revenge scale. A Voice of Sanity 05:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Conviction And aftermath
About the sentence: "Although sharing time in the same prison, and almost in the same block, California state law prohibits high profile inmates from physical interaction with each other, but it is allowed to have inter-prison correspondence with one another". If Richard Ramirez "The Night Stalker" and Scott Peterson are in the same prison, then the phrase "inter-prison correspondence" needs to be changed to "intra-prison correspondence". In fact I will go and make some changes right now! Hi There 05:23, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

67.175.179.166 In the article it says something about a confession scott made to some legal analyst (not the inmate confession garbage) but there is no link to this information. 67.175.179.166 08:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Clean up the article
This article if full of requests for citations and to me it seems to make the article seem more biased that it actually may be. Would anyone be willing to find citations for some of the statements made in the article. --SleepyDan 15:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * SleepyDan, I kindly ask that you sign your comments. I believe that most people here on Wikipedia have nothing to do  other than create silly categories, and add little or really no changes to an article.  It bothers me a lot, but I still continue to add as much as I can to an article.  I could only hope that others would have the same mindset, or leave Wikipedia altogether, because they are hardly useful.  I'll try my best to get to Scott Peterson's article, and hopefully others will join.  Stiles 18:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry about not signing the comment. I do plan to help clean up this article when I can.  Its just that I have been seeing alot of articles like this with no citations for anything and it is starting to get on my nerves. --SleepyDan 15:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

The part about the June 9th date ("Prosecutors pointed out that no medical records relied on the June 9 date and March became flustered and confusing on the stand") in the Evidence section is very confusing. What happened on June 9th? Dunno...the article doesn't mention it anywhere else Sublium (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Innocent
scott did not do it the media turning it into a cricus got him convicted before there was a trial.

Lacy's body showed up were he was fishing after the police had already looked there and said it was not ther on the news .It's plain to anybody with a brain that amber frye did it cause she ws mad scott was gonna leave her forr his wife and have baby with her instead of amber. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.118.200.168 (talk) 03:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Media circus
This article should really talk about the media circus that emerged from this story. There are deeper issues then some guy that killed his wife in California people. There was like 24 hour coverage on this crap along with other superficial "trials" like the oh so important Jackson trial and who can forget Martha!-Y2A


 * It's not surprising that trials of celebrities attract attention. But Scott Peterson wasn't famous - or was he? The article doesn't explain why the media (and I guess the public) became interested in the case. I would like to know. Mirror Vax 11:04, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm British and I know you know non-Americans read wikipedia. The rest of the world, unless there is a good reason which is explained, will not understand why this case generated so much hype. Yes there is the abortion issue. But the level of hype suggests a celebrity case. But the guy is a fertilizer salesman?! Sorry, I don't get it. The article should address this.


 * I'm going to do you one further and state the fact that Scott Peterson, Lacy Peterson, the trial, and all related wikipedia subjects are only worthy of note as a direct result of the media circus surrounding the murder -- and that therefore the objective way to handle the subject as it might appear in an encyclopedia, with a fact-based description, is for all these articles to be consolidated and redirected to an article titled, for example, "The Murder of Lacy Peterson" (demonstrates that the article is not relegated to the trial, the murderer, the personal lives of those involved, or even the media coverage -- the title is simply what happened and encompasses everything thereafter). The new article however, should clearly set the tone and open with the media circus. It's not a matter of opinion that many murders occur in the United States and may not make even the local news. The coverage of this murder is the only reason anyone reading Wikipedia knows it happened, and the article should reflect that. I may try to do the work myself, but I'm about 2 weeks and a few minor edits into my membership here, and aside from that I did my best to avoid the Tabloid-worthy news coverage of this topic so I would be restricted to simply (well, not for me) writing the opening and moving the related topics there. --Knuckle Bean 19:43, 24 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree with you. As in so many of these cases which are selected for exploitation by the media, this was yet another example of 'White Women In Peril'. And, as has happened in so many of these cases before, justice went out the window when the media fury came in. Almost no one in the media made any sort of good faith effort to analyse the facts and draw conclusions from them. A surprising number of examples can be found where the media themselves damaged the prosecution's case with their own reporting but remained oblivious to what they had done and continued to support the myth of Peterson's guilt. Such a belief requires a wilful blindness which is almost awe inspiring but few, except for a very few bloggers, have chosen to be even mildly suspicious of the verdict. --A Voice of Sanity 16:37, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh god yeah we need to add that section, that was the best part of this whole case the media circus: when John and Ken hosted their show outside his house and used megaphones("bull horns")and ask Scott what did you do with the body/ we know you murdered laci. That was the funniest thing ive ever heard on the radio absolutely classic. lol i say put the section in! FDD19 —Preceding unsigned comment added by FDD19 (talk • contribs) 13:23, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * This was a notorious missing persons and later murder case here in the United States. The disappearance and trial was at the forefront of American news for over a year and involved celebrity lawyer Mark Garagos. It set a precedent here in the United States, for it was unheard of to try someone with murder in regards to killing a fetus/unborn child. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.107.67.17 (talk) 17:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

He was convicted for more than one count
Scott Peterson was not just convicted for the first degree murder of his wife Laci but the jury also convicted him of murder in the second degree for his unborn son Connor. I have listed that in the infobox, and yet someone keeps revising it back. That is witholding information.

And it takes away from the whole reason there is an article in the first place. Yes this is a notorious murder that captivated the public. There are many more than don't have Wikipedia entries. But what propels this murder case into history, is that never before in the U.S. court system would it be considered to not only charge a man with murder for killing a fetus but to have him convicted for it. It set a precedent in criminal cases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.107.64.132 (talk) 18:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Merge with Murder of Laci Peterson
This convicted person's article should be merged. However, some support him so I won't merge it without discussion and debate. Acme Plumbing (talk) 05:11, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Request an image
Would it be alright to put an image of the person in question on the article? I'm sure there have to be some copyright free images of him out there. I did a quick google search and it's very easy to find his mugshot. If I'm not mistaken, aren't mugshots considered to be in the public domain because a governmental agency created the image as a matter of public record? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.111.224 (talk) 22:52, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done... Doc9871 (talk) 15:20, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Scottisinnocent.com?
Okay, someone explain to me how anything that is sourced from a site called "www.scottisinnocent.com" can in anyway be considered a credible and NPOV source???
 * My pleasure. That site contains the full trial record, the record of all pretrial motions, the record of the appeals and counter filings, all the available photographs, and a great deal of research and analysis carried out after the trial. Much of the testimony which was not well challenged during the trial has been subjected to rigorous analysis there and much has been shown to be flawed in the extreme. If one linked to a site called dynamitegoesboom.com which contained extensive research on explosives would you reject it because it isn't neutral in its conclusion that yes, it does? A Voice of Sanity 00:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Checking check.SPLPDR

It contains nothing of the sort. It's an advertisement site and has nothing about the case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.169.180.52 (talk) 14:17, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that old URL is just parked. The correct URL is http://www.pwc-sii.com/
 * A Voice of Sanity 21:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by A Voice of Sanity (talk • contribs)

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 * There is a presumption that this image is public domain since it was part of the court exhibits. Note however that this image was altered when published in the media - the original (I have a copy) shows the spidery stiletto heels Mrs Peterson was wearing which support the claim that she could still walk the dog, if in flat shoes. It is assumed that this is the reason for the alteration.
 * A Voice of Sanity 21:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by A Voice of Sanity (talk • contribs)

Another clean up
I have found that the name of Laci Peterson has been changed throughout this article to Sophie Mercado. I changed it all back. I wouldn't be surprised if Scott was making the changes himself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rvn1966 (talk • contribs) 03:46, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Mr Peterson has no access to the internet whatsoever. He cannot read it. He cannot post to it. He can only read material printed off and mailed or delivered to him.
 * A Voice of Sanity 21:50, 2 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by A Voice of Sanity (talk • contribs)

"Parents who killed their children"?
Why is this included as a category? 206.213.251.31 (talk) 15:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I am guessing that's because Scott Peterson was convicted of killing his (unborn) child, son Conner.  (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:50, 15 October 2010 (UTC))

Unfound clothing evidence
According to the movie "The Perfect Husband: The Laci Peterson Story", the clothing Laci wore on the prior evening were never found. The movie version goes something like this: The police searched for the clothes that Laci had worn the night before she disappeared. Since Scott Peterson claimed that she was alive, active, and dressed the following morning, the police logic was that she should have changed from the previous days' clothes before going to bed and/or arising the following dayL It would have been unlikely that Laci would have doned the previous days clothes the following morning. A girlfriend who had been with Laci the previous day was brought to the Peterson house to locate and identify the clothes, but after searching they were not found. The disappearence of these clothes was interpreted by police to mean Laci had not changed her clothes since the night before she disappeared and had been murdered and disposed of in them. However the SII website makes the claim that this clothing was found in the Peterson home: "Contrary to the State's argument, Laci was not found in the clothes she was wearing the day before. The tan pants, the blouse, and the shoes were all found in the house and identified by Amy Rocha." http://www.pwc-sii.com/ 99.2.69.235 (talk) 04:31, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Movies are not considered Reliable Sources for Wikipedia. HammerFilmFan (talk) 11:39, 13 June 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan

ASSISTI UMA VERSÃO DA HISTÓRIA...
 Assisti uma versão da história q muito me interessou... o filme "marido perfeito" me intrigou muitoSó q ele ñ dah um final real p história, ñ sei se é bom ou ruim isso, pq ñ diz se scott é inocente ou culpado do crime, então resolvi pesquisar, ele foi condenado a injeção letal, corredor da morte, depois lí num artigo q ele fez sua confissão á uma escritora??? se ele ñ havia confessado há 14 meses iria confessar p uma escritora?? lí muitos artigos sobre o caso "petterson" realmente uma história q me deixou com curiosidade... ñ sou boa em inglês, mais a maiora dos artigos são em inglês, ñ deu p entender muito... queria um email q poderia mandar diretamente p scott petterson na detenção onde ele se encontra... e endereços de mais sobre o assunto em português. Thanks pela atenção. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.222.230.195 (talk) 00:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * This 'author' is not well regarded by anyone. Her writings are dismissed by even those who believe him guilty. There is no possibility that he 'confessed' since he knows nothing about what happened to his pregnant wife.




 * You cannot email him. He as no access to the internet or to email, and can only receive and send mail by post.




 * Here are some links to contact information and general information etc.

http://sites.google.com/site/another9912/home

http://thevoiceofsanity.blogspot.com/

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Scott-Peterson-Case-Truth-be-Told/127523270602413

http://californiavspeterson.blogspot.com/

http://pwc-consulting.blogspot.com/

http://scottpetersonappeal.org/cblog/index.php

A Voice of Sanity 18:43, 18 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by A Voice of Sanity (talk • contribs)

claiming wrongful conviction
There's a discussion over at Talk:Drew_Peterson about a small issue that visited this article as well. – JBarta (talk) 08:06, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Reliable source?
I have raised concerns about a source which is being used in this article at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard. Editors are invited to participate. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:32, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Found a copy of the appeal online
I found a copy of the 423 page appeal (http://www.scottpetersonappeal.org/uploads/2/4/8/2/24829415/scottsbrief.pdf). I don't how to add it to the page. Can someone either tell me how to do it or do it for me? Rricci428 (talk) 22:15, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 15:46, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Cleanup
I'm going to ask for cleanup on this page because there are not enough sources (there were none when I started) and a lot of claims here should be sourced. I'll probably do this myself if no one else does, but if you want to improve this page, find some more links. Thanks. EventHorizon 19:08, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Re: (cur) (last) 03:32, 22 Dec 2004 212.159.87.102 (Chronology)

Edited from seven month pregnant, to eight. Source courttv. Was not logged in at the time. Please see numerous references: http://www.courttv.com/trials/peterson/

He was also mentioned in the Tucker Max movie "I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.193.38.56 (talk) 14:05, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 27 February 2018

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 01:44, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Scott Peterson → Scott Lee Peterson – I think Scott Peterson (comics) also looks pretty notable, I don't see why an alleged murderer should monopolize the namespace while obscuring the works of a major DC contributor. Scott Peterson (writer) isn't a pushover either. ScratchMarshall (talk) 06:19, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't this be to Scott Peterson (criminal) and move Scott Peterson (disambiguation) in? In ictu oculi (talk) 18:00, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. Not quite sure if he is primary or not, but if not the article should be moved to Scott Peterson (murderer). He has been convicted of murder and WP:MIDDLE! -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:35, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * dont move he is known as scott peterson, middle name is not used in the press, and he is quite notable. other names will need modification for a while, as he is the most known. PS the guard who didnt enter the school in the parkland shooting is Scot Peterson. there should be a listing at the disambig page for him.(mercurywoodrose)2602:304:CFD0:6350:18F2:543C:D101:A0BB (talk) 04:36, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep/Don't Move: WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. GauchoDude (talk) 07:12, 2 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Probably first globalization of a local story
If you look at the details of the story, there is really nothing of any NEWS interest to anyone outside of the families and friends, and should have been a "local news" story.

Instead, to my recollection (which is why I can't put it in the main article), this was the first such story that became a global news story. At that time, I received European news channels by satellite, and they were covering the story - even though it had absolutely no effect on anyone in Europe. It's just a fertilizer salesman and his wife.

So, this was the first big indication of the shift from "news about things that affect you" (such as 9/11) to "personal stories that will catch your attention" as a marketing concept - something that has now morphed into fake news stories.162.205.217.211 (talk) 19:43, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  22:36, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Probably not. Got a source?

Excess detail
I'm really puzzled by the details of Scott's golf in college. And "When Peterson and his future wife first met at the restaurant in mid-1994, Laci made the first move, sending him her phone number." Is Wikipedia supposed to have exhaustive bios of people famous for murder? Sounds like one of his "admirers" spends the day lovingly polishing up his life. Avocats (talk) 22:40, March 26, 2005 (UTC)


 * I would agree that a great deal of trimming of facts of his life not directly related to the murder would be of great benefit. That is what he is notable for. And I doubt his golf swing influenced his decision to murder a pregnant spouse in cold blood.50.111.49.173 (talk) 01:23, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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Article name
Please change the title of this article to Scott Peterson (alleged murder). I am not sure how to change the title of a page. 70.176.17.62 (talk) 18:13, November 13, 2004 (UTC)


 * You'll need to create an account and a "Move" option will be available. 172.193.243.108 (talk) 18:13, November 13, 2004 (UTC)


 * Since he has now been convicted he's not alleged anymore so a title change would be inappropriate. Zerbey 23:41, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

He is a convicted murderer. He is no longer an alleged murderer, the trial is over.

Come on, what's next Scott Peterson (convicted murderer who might get off on appeal)? Pitchka (talk) 22:14, November 13, 2004 (UTC)

Appeals
If he does win an appeal the page will need to be changed back to alleged murder. 129.32.104.153 (talk) 23:41, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I suppose it does qualify as an 'external link', but come on... is this link really necessary or appropriate? -vinny 24.23.206.78 (talk) ​02:36, November 29, 2004 (UTC)

"Laci Peterson, who was seven months pregnant at the time..."

Is there a need for "at the time" when "was" already sums up the fact that it is something that happened before? Slof (talk) 17:37, December 8, 2004 (UTC)

Deleted last paragraph: NONE of the 'circumstances' mentioned are grounds for an appeal in the state of California. 156.34.214.69 (talk) 02:01, December 11, 2004 (UTC)

Household name
Did he really only become a household name after his arrest? Seems to me the story was very common long before then. --John 05:13, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)

Statement
This statement is incorrect: "The prescribed method of execution was lethal injection." California's death penalty allows the prisoner to choose between gas or lethal injection, and then gives lethal injection if the prisoner refuses to choose. "Persons sentenced to death prior to or after the operative date of this subdivision shall have the opportunity to elect to have the punishment imposed by lethal gas or lethal injection....If a person under sentence of death does not choose either lethal gas or lethal injection within 10 days after the warden's service upon the inmate of an execution warrant issued following the operative date of this subdivision, the penalty of death shall be imposed by lethal injection." (Pen. Code section 3604 subd. b) Joe Casey. 66.74.77.102 (talk) 02:01, December 11, 2004 (UTC)

Quality of article's prose
This article might be one of the worst examples of writing on Wikipedia. I tried editing it and quickly gave up. It needs to be overhauled completely--any volunteers? 68.77.6.143 (talk) 23:15, June 16, 2005 (UTC)

Archiving ERROR
someone archived the recent comments (circa 2016-2021) and left the ones dating from 2005 and earlier - can an admin please address this? 50.111.19.34 (talk) 22:19, 10 December 2021 (UTC)


 * It doesn't require an admin, just a registered user, any of whom can add User:Evad37/OneClickArchiver. —valereee (talk) 11:13, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

No mention of today's court shenanigans?
Fairly big deal on the news. Judge to announce decision shortly. 50.111.25.27 (talk) 20:50, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * No, the judge may take up to 90 days to make a decision. Cullen328 (talk) 20:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)