Talk:Scourge

Use by druids
In regard to the entry at the bottom of the page, I feel the need to make two points quite clear. I am a practicing druid, and seperatly into sensory play BDSM, but.... striking at the base of the spine at the tail bone is a horific NO! Please read or consult experainced floggers who know where to hit and how! Secondly, the 'Altered State' this entry talks about I guess is the endorphin rush derived from sensory play / or good pain. Just a clarification... but please do so away from any bone!

Ed. eid_broughton@yahoo.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.52.14.18 (talk) 15:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Be Bold! (see WP:BB) Edit the paragraph to reflect your knowledge (focusing on the use of scourging in paganism). I am no expert on paganism, but I am highly dubious with the same concerns that you raised. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.194.10.183 (talk) 12:49, 1 May 2007 (UTC).


 * As a practicing British Traditional Witch, I can assure you that those who practice in a BTW tradition such as Gardnerian and Arthurian and who practice the traditional binding and scourging, do in fact at one point in their rituals, kneel with their foreheads upon the floor and while having their arms tied behing their backs, do recieve a certain amount of strokes to the bottom of the spine, at the "Y" formed by the buttocks. I refer those who may doubt such practices to Ray Buckland's "Complete Book of Witchcraft", and with all due respect, the altered state experienced would not apply to BDSM practitioners, nor to Druids, (as they do not use a scourge as a sacred tool). This practice has been such since GBGardner started Initiating people in the 1940's. Arwythur The Arwythur (talk) 20:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Source
scoriada is not Italian. Maybe it can be referred to the verb scorticare, similar to the latin one -- R u t j a 76 ( talk to me! ) 20:08, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Bloodclan
I have taken out the section about Erin Hunter's novels because it doesn't belong in this article. If it does in fact warrant inclusion, it should be separated through a disambiguation page first. Nomenklatura44 (talk) 14:14, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Scourge
Scourge means vengence and severe punishment. I think the character Scourge from Erin Hunter's popular series Warriors, if so awesome! I his name suits him well. 71.232.225.52 (talk) 21:23, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Dumbbell wounds?
The article Shroud of Turin says that a Roman flagrum (which redirects here) left "Dumbbell wounds" on the body portrayed in the Shroud. Maybe something could be said in this article about what this type of wound is, and why it occurs with a flagrum/scourge? Gronky (talk) 23:14, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Description requires copy-editing
The first line of the description is currently, "The typic (Latin: flagrum; diminutive: flagellum) has several thongs fastened to a handle; cat o' nine tails: naval thick-rope knotted-end scourge, the army and civil prison versions usually are leather." Up to the semicolon, this is somewhat intellegible, but the rest isn't. It reads a bit like a few things were copy-pasted together without being edited to flow, though I can't be sure that's what happened--it could just as easily have been something like cats walking on a laptop and deleting random parts. My instinct is to change the semicolon to a period and rework the rest into a more detailed description, perhaps using cat o' nine tails as an example of a scourge, or perhaps to delete it entirely. The first part of the sentence will also need reworking; for instance, should that read, "The typical scourge (Latin: flagrum; diminutive: flagellum) has several thongs fastened to a handle," or is the meaning different than I'm reading at the moment? Subluxate (talk) 10:01, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Wicca is irrelevant to the subject matter.
As above, Wicca has no place in a discussion of a historical tool. Discussion of wiccan use of such tool should take place in articles about wiccan practices, but in this article the presence of such discussion is distracting and reduces the quality and credibility of the article. Nrussell1945 (talk) 08:26, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't mind the bit about its purported role in Wicca ("purpose of using the scourge is not to cause pain or to torture, but for purification purposes, particularly for [i]nitiates"), perhaps leavened with similar roles in other groups, if it were properly sourced. That's actually about use of the scourge, and is material to the topic of the article. But not more than that; and not unsourced; and preferably describing other similar ceremonial uses, assuming they exist.
 * But the lengthy discussion was too much, even were it sourced. And the IPC like passage about the Legend of the Descent of the Goddess is clearly out-of-scope. TJRC (talk) 16:02, 5 March 2020 (UTC)