Talk:Scouting in Michigan

Historical council information to be folded in
Historical council information to be folded in — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kintetsubuffalo (talk • contribs) 21:55, 18 September 2006


 * Michigan Gladstone 1922 1924 merged into Delta and Schoolcraft Counties 261 1924
 * Michigan Manistique 1923 1924 merged into Delta and Schoolcraft Counties 261 1924
 * Michigan 261 Escanaba 1920 1924 merged into Delta and Schoolcraft Counties 261 1924
 * Michigan 261 Delta and Schoolcraft Counties 1924 1926 merged into Iron Range Area 649 1929 1926
 * Michigan 649 Dickinson District 1924 1925 merged into Iron Range Area 649 1925
 * Michigan 649 Iron Range Area 1926 1927 disbanded reformed in 1928 1927
 * Michigan Menominee County 1920 1924 merged into Iron Range Area 649 1929
 * Michigan 649 Iron Range Area 1928 1933 ended 1933
 * Michigan Calumet 1915 1918
 * Michigan Manistee 1915 1918
 * Michigan Holland 1917 1918
 * Michigan Marshall 1917 1918
 * Michigan Saint Clair 1917 1918
 * Michigan South Haven 1917 1918
 * Michigan Houghton 1918
 * Michigan Ionia 1918 1920
 * Michigan 268 Ironwood 1922 1926 ended 1926
 * Michigan 255 Ann Arbor Council 1917 1924 merged into Washtenaw County Council 255 1924
 * Michigan 281 Ypsilanti Council 1922 1925 merged into Washtenaw County Council 255 1925
 * Michigan 269 Jackson Council 1912 1926 changed name to Jackson Area Council  269 1926
 * Michigan 255 Washtenaw County Council 1925 1935 changed name to Washtenaw-Livingston Council 255 1935
 * Michigan 269 Jackson Area Council 1926 1937 changed name to Land O' Lakes Council 269 1937
 * Michigan 255 Washtenaw-Livingston Council 1935 1951 changed name to Portage Trails Council 255 1951
 * Michigan 255 Portage Trails Council 1951 1973 merged into Wolverine Council 255 1973
 * Michigan 711 Wolverine Council 1925 1973 merged into Wolverine Council 255 1973
 * Michigan 255 Wolverine Council 1973 1993 July 1 merged into Great Sauk Trail Council 255 1993 July 1
 * Michigan 269 Land O' Lakes Council 1937 1993 July 1 merged into Great Sauk Trail Council 255 1993 July 1
 * Michigan 255 Great Sauk Trail Council 1993 July 1
 * Michigan 271 Marquette 1915 1928 ended/reformed as Marquette Area 261 1931
 * Michigan Sault Sainte Marie 1917 1920 changed name to Chippewa County 259 1920
 * Michigan 259 Chippewa County 1920 1929 merged into Chippewa Area 259 1929
 * Michigan 261 Marquette Area 1931 1933 changed name to Hiawatha Area 261 1933
 * Michigan 259 Chippewa Area 1929 1945 merged into Hiawathaland 261 1945
 * Michigan 260 Copper Country 1923 1945 merged into Hiawathaland 261 1945
 * Michigan 261 Hiawatha Area 1933 1945 merged into Hiawathaland 261 1945
 * Michigan 263 Red Buck 1938 1945 merged into Hiawathaland 261 1945
 * Michigan 649 Iron Range 1938 1945 merged into Hiawathaland 261 1945
 * Michigan 261 Hiawathaland 1945
 * Michigan 280 Wyandotte 1920 1924 merged into Detroit 262 1924
 * Michigan 262 Detroit 1914 1926 changed name to Detroit Area 262 1926
 * Michigan 262 Detroit Area 1926
 * Michigan 264 Flint 1916 1927 changed name to Muscadawin Area 264 1927
 * Michigan 264 Muscadawin Area 1927 1937 changed name to Tall Pine 264 1937
 * Michigan 264 Tall Pine 1937
 * Michigan 257 Bay City 1918 1926 merged into Summer Trails 257 1926
 * Michigan 273 Midland 1922 1926 merged into Summer Trails 257 1926
 * Michigan 278 Saginaw 1918 1932 changed name to Saginaw Area 278 1932
 * Michigan 278 Saginaw Area 1932 1933 changed name to Saginaw Valley 278 1933
 * Michigan 278 Saginaw Valley 1933 1936 changed name to Valley Trails 278 1936
 * Michigan 257 Summer Trails 1927 1961 merged into Saginaw Bay Area 265 1961
 * Michigan 278 Valley Trails 1936 1961 merged into Saginaw Bay Area 265 1961
 * Michigan 259 Paul Bunyan 1951 1971 merged into Lake Huron Area 265 1971
 * Michigan 265 Saginaw Bay Area 1961 1971 merged into Lake Huron Area 265 1971
 * Michigan 274 Scenic Trails 1939 1/2 merged into Lake Huron Area 265 1971
 * Michigan 265 Lake Huron Area 1971 http://www.lhacbsa.org
 * Michigan 265 Grand Haven 1920 1925 merged into Ottawa County 717 1925
 * Michigan 267 Holland 1923 1925 merged into Ottawa County 717 1925
 * Michigan 275 Muskegon 1915 1927 changed name to Muskegon Area 275 1927
 * Michigan 717 Ottawa County 1925 1929 changed name to Ottawa-Allegan 717 1929
 * Michigan 273 Northern Michigan 1928 1930 changed name to Pere Marquette Area 721 1932 1930
 * Michigan 717 Ottawa-Allegan 1929 1934 changed name to Ottawa County 717 1934
 * Michigan 721 Pere Marquette Area 1925 1934 merged into Timber Trails 275 1934
 * Michigan 266 Grand Rapids Area 1915 1936 changed name to Grand Valley 266 1936
 * Michigan 717 Ottawa County 1934 1936 changed name to Ottawa-Allegan 717 1936
 * Michigan 275 Muskegon Area 1927 1944 merged into Timber Trails 275 1944
 * Michigan 717 Ottawa-Allegan 1936 1949 merged into Grand Valley 266 1949
 * Michigan 266 Grand Valley 1936 1975 merged into West Michigan Shores 266 1975
 * Michigan 275 Timber Trails 1944 1975 merged into West Michigan Shores 266 1975
 * Michigan 266 West Michigan Shores 1975 1995 May 1 changed name to Gerald R. Ford 266 1995 May 1
 * Michigan 266 Gerald R. Ford 1995 July 1 http://www.grfccouncilbsa.org
 * Michigan 258 Berrien County 1919 1923 changed name to Benton Harbor and Saint Joseph 258 1923
 * Michigan 256 Battle Creek 1915 1927 changed name to Battle Creek Area 256 1927
 * Michigan 263 Dowagiac 1917 1927 merged into Benton Harbor and Saint Joseph 258 1927
 * Michigan 270 Kalamazoo 1915 1927 changed name to Kalamazoo Area 270 1927
 * Michigan 258 Benton Harbor and Saint Joseph 1923 1929 changed name to Berrien-Cass Area 258 1929
 * Michigan 270 Kalamazoo Area 1927 1929 changed name to Kalamazoo-Fruit Belt Area 270 1929
 * Michigan 279 Sturgis 1923 1929 changed name to Fort Hill 279 1929
 * Michigan 279 Fort Hill 1929 1931 merged into Kalamazoo-Fruit Belt 270 1931
 * Michigan 270 Kalamazoo Fruit Belt Area 1929 1937 changed name to Fruit Belt Area 270 1937
 * Michigan 258 Berrien-Cass Area 1929 1941 changed name to Southwestern Michigan 258 1941
 * Michigan 256 Battle Creek Area 1927 1953 changed name to Nottawa Trails 256 1953
 * Michigan 256 Nottawa Trails 1953 1973 merged into Southwest Michigan 270 1973
 * Michigan 258 Southwestern Michigan 1941 1973 merged into Southwest Michigan 270 1973
 * Michigan 270 Fruit Belt Area 1937 1973 merged into Southwest Michigan 270 1973
 * Michigan 270 Southwest Michigan 1973
 * Michigan 271 Lansing 1919 1932 changed name to Chief Okemos 271 1932
 * Michigan 271 Chief Okemos 1932
 * Michigan 274 Scenic Trails 1939 http://ww.stcbsa.org
 * Michigan 274 Mount Clemens 1922 1925 changed name to Macomb County 274 1925
 * Michigan 276 Pontiac 1917 1928 changed name to Oakland Area 276 1928
 * Michigan 276 Oakland Area 1929 1936 merged into Clinton Valley 276 1936
 * Michigan 274 Macomb County 1925 1937 merged into Clinton Valley 276 1937
 * Michigan 276 Clinton Valley 1937 http://www.cvc-bsa.org
 * Michigan 277 Port Huron 1919 1929 changed name to Saint Clair Area 277 1929
 * Michigan 277 Saint Clair Area 1929 1939 changed name to Blue Water 277 1939
 * Michigan 277 Blue Water 1939

Merge of D-Bar-A Scout Ranch

 * Oppose --evrik (talk) 15:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * SupportRlevse 01:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * support merge Chris 05:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed the tag because it was dated. --evrik (talk) 16:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Merge of Bennett's Lodge

 * Merge but only merge a small part, most of this unusual article can be deleted.Rlevse 01:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * support merge Chris 05:12, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Support merge of any verifiable information. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 17:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose I would create a Lost Lake Scout Reservation camp article and merge it into that. --evrik (talk) 16:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Scouting in MIchigan
There's an error in the link to the Blue Water Council. The link goes to www.bwcbsa.com which is some sort of vitamin site. The correct link should be to www.bwcbsa.org 4.229.21.107 03:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Councils and Districts?
This article, as it is now, is mostly just a listing of the councils and districts in Michigan, while only a small minority of it is actually about "scouting in michigan". Might it be better to move the list to a separate article ("List of BSA Councils in Michigan" or something)? Another alternative could be to just list the councils, and leave the districts and most of the council information for their own articles. That way, this article could be be more oriented to history, background, and information on the overall topic of "Scouting in Michigan". Thoughts? Unforgiven24 (talk) 17:55, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Camp Tapico, BSA merge
Camp Tapico, BSA is not notable outside of Tall Pine Council. Article is orphaned and marginally edited. --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  20:00, 19 October 2008 (UTC) ✅ --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  15:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Area Project
I'm starting to do some research on the Area Project to expand and improve the section in the article on it, which I'm severely tempted to shorten right now for violating WP:NPOV, but I'm leaving it alone for right now. (If nothing else, my current understanding is that the new area-level entity would indeed become a legal entity.) I would appreciate some help in this, as - given that my father works for Great Lakes Council - I want to make sure I don't butt up against WP:NOR (which can be a really frustrating thing, having to find websites that say things I know or have gotten from the proverbial horse's mouth) and WP:NPOV. --Kant Lavar (talk) 12:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

The mergers were approved; here is the organization:


 * Greater Michigan Council
 * A Gerald R. Ford Council + Scenic Trails Council = President Gerald R. Ford Field Service Council (February 1)
 * B Lake Huron Area Council + Blue Water Council + Tall Pine Council + Chief Okemos Council = TBD (March 1)
 * C Southwest Michigan Council + Great Sauk Trail Council = TBD (April 1)
 * D Great Lakes Council = Great Lakes Field Service Council (June 1)

GMC will be the main council comprising four field service councils. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 04:01, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Girl Scouts
Girls Scouts aren't part of the Boy Scouts of America in any way, shape or form. They really shouldn't be in this article. They should have their own article. Rklawton (talk) 18:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note the article is about Scouting in Michigan, not just the Boy Scouts of America in Michigan so it includes Girl Scouts of the USA and can include independent scouting organizations. --Erp (talk) 02:55, 4 November 2015 (UTC)