Talk:Scream (1996 film)

Cast
There's nothing to discuss. The cast list belongs. They exist at most other movie pages. They help readers quickly identify actors and roles. The casting section is for the bloated reasons about who plays whom and why. That's it. I don't know who took it out first but it should be put back in. LordAtlas (talk) 06:17, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * If there was nothing to discuss there wouldn't be need for a discussion, you can take your attitude over to a local beach and get it to relax. Might does not make right, per guidelines plain lists are frowned upon, the cast are credited all over the article, your list adds nothing, nor does your attitude. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 20:51, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You were the one who took it out. How about you look at other film pages? You decided to remove something without consensus. The cast list clearly identifies which actor was which character. I fail to see how you think that is unimportant. It isn't a plain list. LordAtlas (talk) 22:46, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe if you review MOS:FILM you'll find nothing stipulating that a Cast listing in the format you've been inserting it is considered a requirement, and some argument that it's not best practice either. That it is frequently (by no means always) done at other film articles does not mean it is considered "best practice", only that they do it that way. In any event, the proper course is to establish a consensus for how we can proceed, which is what we're doing now. DonIago (talk) 01:35, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Dude, there's been no cast list since 2011 at least. You are way too late to complain about removing something without consensus. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 16:25, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * This seems relevant. DonIago (talk) 17:27, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

It should probably be mentioned that LordAtlas has brought this to WT:FILM for further discussion. DonIago (talk) 20:24, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

"Cast covered in lead, infobox and casting." Cast should not be, and isn't covered in the lead. The lead is meant to give a summary or overview of the whole article. Infobox is not there to substitute the information that should be in the article. As for casting, I would have to read all the section to find out who plays what role. It should be easy to find this information in the article for those who do not wish to read the whole section. This is what the Cast section is for. Hoverfish Talk 22:53, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There's an ongoing discussion Hovertool, why you can't wait for that to resolve I don't know but congrats on being a bad Wikipedian. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 23:00, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Hovertool? Bad Wikipedian? Hoverfish Talk 23:04, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup. Awful. He owns this page. You need permission. /facepalm LordAtlas (talk) 23:08, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Let's be clear here Lord Asslas, the page hasn't had a cast list for 6 years, it passed GA as it was, it went to FA as it was without cast lists being the issue. It's nothing to do with your pathetic accusations of WP:OWN and everything to do with you two edit warring to get the content in against a WP:STATUSQUO. Don't play the victim when your attitude from the start was disgusting. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 22:34, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, look. Another personal attack. Please, sir. May I have more? LordAtlas (talk) 22:54, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
 * you can make your point without personal attacks. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:26, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I can. It wouldn't have as much emphasis though. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 16:17, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

I support having a "Cast" section. especially presenting it as multi-column to avoid extraneous white space, which is the main reason I've not liked such sections. However, what rule of thumb are we following with the names? Meaning, can we follow a secondary source so we don't have to fit over where to cut off the list? And for something like Henry Winkler's uncredited role, that may be more suitable as a sentence after the list of names. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 01:13, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I just now happened to come across the FA for the day (Blade Runner) that has a cast list similar to the one Erik produced, so it seems to be a very reasonable and acceptable type of list...Huggums537 (talk) 00:27, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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Maureen Prescott
I’m wondering where someone got the information that Priscilla Pointer played Maureen Prescott in Scream 1996. I’m pretty certain it was Lynn McRee, not Priscilla. Mzimmerle (talk) 00:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * The source that is next to the name. Also, it was a picture.  Scream 3 is when Lynn actually portrays her.  Mike   Allen   00:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * It was definitely Lynn McRee in both Scream 1 and 2. Changed name to reflect this. The proof is that, in the audio commentary on Scream 3 (on DVD or iTunes extra, commentary also on Youtube) Wes Craven and his producer Marianne Maddalena clearly state (at approx 12 minute 55 second mark) that Lynn McRee also played the role of Sidney's mother in Scream 1 photograph and reprised her role in 3. There are also interviews on Youtube with Lynn McRee herself confirming this. Only including commentary citation here (but Youtube ones can be included if allowed). So BFI/other sources saying Priscilla Pointer (who was a much older woman also) are incorrect. Database sources can be incorrect. I think in this instance we should believe the director of the movies, the producer of them, and the star herself, rather than a database and a fansite that just list her with no further documentation. Clearly it's an error. Priscilla Pointer is 98 and over 64 in 1996 and wasn't posing with a teenage Sidney (the photo featured them both), playing her 30 or 40-something year-old mother.
 * As if all of the above wasn't enough, a few seconds later on the Scream 3 commentary (I'm listening to it now!), editor Patrick Lussier also specifically says (at approx 13:09 mark) that Lynn McRee was the mother "in the photograph behind Sidney on the couch in Scream 1". It was irrefutably, definitely Lynn McRee in both Scream 1 and 3.
 * Here's the link to a fair use Scream 3 commentary on Youtube (is also available officially on DVD and iTunes Extras which I own): Scream 3 (2000) - Audio Commentary - YouTube. Listen between 12:50 and 13:20 mark (and again at around 20:50/20:55 where the photograph from Scream 1 is shown onscreen and again it's stated that it's Lynn McRee in the photograph in both movies).
 * Additional interviews with Lynn McRee:
 * Episode 182: Interview with Lynn Mcree (Maureen Prescott Scream Trilogy, Milk) - YouTube
 * SCREAM 3 CAST MEMBER **LYNN MCREE** (MAUREEN PRESCOTT) LIVE STREAM INTERVIEW! - YouTube 86.45.85.171 (talk) 12:39, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. So listing either actress on this film (Scream) seems to be pointless if it was just from a photograph.  I would propose just removing that credit altogether.   Mike   Allen   14:04, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @MikeAllenYou seemed fine with the cast member's name staying for months and even years until your info was proven incorrect and now you remove it all? Not allowed considering how well sourced it is. Will report you for edit warring and removing references if this continues. Name was here before and is now well-soured. Don't remove info simply because you were incorrect. Her name is well documented and discussed by filmmakers across the franchise. No reason to remove it. 2001:BB6:4E52:7D00:ACEB:7239:8FD6:50DD (talk) 14:11, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I don’t care about being correct. And I changed it 2 months ago to a source from the BFI. Not years ago.  If it makes you feel better that a lady in a photograph from 1996 has a name that, really doesn’t matter now, then so be it.  Edit war?  Calm down it isn’t that serious. LOL.  Mike   Allen   14:14, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @MikeAllen You reverted previous edits on it and acknowledged in your earlier comment on this talk page that it was a photograph but insisted it was Priscilla Pointer. Now when the director/producer/editor commentary is sourced, plus interviews with actress herself, you decide "a photograph isn't really a cast member anyway" (despite being fine with it earlier) and simply remove it all? It comes across as childish and petty and, yes, edit-warring in the extreme. The actress was hired to pose for the photograph and later reprised her role at the director's request. She is discussed by all the filmmakers who even mention the photograph being listed. Her name should stay in the credits, just like you were happy to leave the incorrect actresses name in them when it was still "only" a photograph. 2001:BB6:4E52:7D00:ACEB:7239:8FD6:50DD (talk) 14:17, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I. Don’t. Care.  Leave.  It.  Mike   Allen   14:19, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Please stop with replies like the above - don't tell another editor to "calm down" and now type a sentence like that. Clearly, based on all your previous reversions, you do care. Removing sourced info just because you decide you were incorrect is petty and against Wiki policy. Stop with the edit-warring. I see you've already been warned on your talk page a few times for similar behaviour where it was even suggested that you take a WikiBreak. 2001:BB6:4E52:7D00:ACEB:7239:8FD6:50DD (talk) 14:22, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * If you check the edit history, you'll see the above user MikeAllen made a minor edit to his comment so he could continue to hurl abuse in his edit comment, threatening to "report you as a sock" if I "keep it up". Here's a link to his edit summary with these threats here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Scream_(1996_film)&diff=prev&oldid=1151831475
 * I'm not a sockpuppet, I'm an IP user - learn the difference. IP editing is allowed on Wikipedia. Abuse and edit-warring is not. I consider this discussion closed but if it continues, I am happy to report you. I've done nothing wrong whereas you have reverted edits, removed references, and been abusive. 2001:BB6:4E52:7D00:ACEB:7239:8FD6:50DD (talk) 14:35, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Lee Waddell
Lee Waddell played Ghostface in the scenes where both Casey and Principal Himbry were murdered. Wouldn’t it be notable to put his name in the cast? Mzimmerle (talk) 20:38, 14 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Is he credited? If not, you'll need a source. DonIago (talk) 00:50, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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