Talk:ScrewAttack

December 2008
This is wikipedia, it is supposed to contain information, encyclopedic, about things. It is NOT for hosting a flame war for company personel.

It does not need anything more than an INCREDIBLY brief statement that Handsome Tom is no longer part of the Screwattack website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.154.149 (talk) 03:42, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

This section formerly titleless
This should NOT be deleted because it is a fan writing about it. I saw it didn't have a wikipedia so I thought I would make it one. All the article is saying is what screwattack does and about its shows. —Preceding unsigned comment added by K StarGK (talk • contribs)

--- now that you let screwattack how about you fucking pedant wikipedia assholes let the nerd have a page for fucks sakes

^^ YES!

Also, note that Screwattack is now a subsidary of Viacom and is in their infobox for the list of companies. Please don't look foolish and make all of the companies and CEOs available as a wikipedia entry except screwattack. With this site's track record since December, one would think that this site has a few higher-up users that have somewhat of a chip on their shoulder or a personal beef with screwattack and its features. Please be more objective than subjective.SashaNein 12:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Craig is saying otherwise, and that they are not a subsidary of Viacom. --136.142.46.33 (talk) 19:25, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * This page should not be deleted, the 'Editor' as well as many other Wikipedia administrators have a personal vendetta against anything ScrewAttack and the AVGN. Petty differences between the Administrators and whatever offends them at ScrewAttack needs to be taken elsewhere. The Ravager 03:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The tag is asking that some WP:RS references be added. If ScrewAttack is notable then this shouldn't be too difficult. I don't know anything about any vendetta. (Requestion 16:45, 6 June 2007 (UTC))

This is one of the few sites I check daily but for some reason the pedantic crazy admins hate this site and the nerd and Id bet money on it getting deleted. this site gets tons of traffic and has a huge following much larger than many of the webcomics that have massive articles on this site —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.188.153 (talk • contribs)

The Wizard commentary
Something of extremely questionable legality that ScrewAttack Productions LLC has been up to. They've been making their own commentary track for The Wizard, a la RiffTrax, but they're putting up the whole movie free of charge. Initially these clips were uploaded to YouTube, but YouTube took them down as a copyright violation, so now they're being hosted at Dailymotion, which is much more lax in it's stance against copyright violations.

When asked about the project on their forum, and if any deal or royalties had been paid to NBC Universal (who own the movie), "Stuttering Craig" (aka Craig Skitismas) stated "Yes... Yes we are (pirating). Now shut up and watch it. :)"

Ought this get some mention in the article? PlayItBogart 13:45, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Who cares, Fuck nbc universal, its a funny commentary

^^^ Exactly, just chill out. Its hilarious and worth watching! The Ravager 18:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

A few things are in need of concideration: 1) This is a fairly old movie and realy I think NBC have just about squeezed all they're geting out of a movie which was made purely to promote Super Mario Bros 3. 2) This commentary track could be concidered a fan edit of a film (To the effect of "Star Wars EP 1: The phantom edit" or "Matrix Dezionized") and as such brings up it's own fair share of whatifs.--Conan-san 08:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This whole issue being brought up here just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. From what I saw, Bogart asked a question, didn't like the answer he got, and then figured he'd "get back" at ScrewAttack by posting this drivel on Wikipedia. Last I checked, this place isn't a venue for retribution. I don't know what personal issues are going on here, but I don't like the way this surfaced one bit.216.37.86.10 15:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Page format
I refined a lot of the grammar and punctuation so it no longer looks quite so slipshod. Feel free to change or improve what you like, but if it doesn't read right, I'll change it to something else. In the vein of keeping this article up, it has a much better chance of surviving if it's well written, sourced, and complete.

Senjuro 15:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Youtube controversy probably does deserve some mention
I noticed some random IP inserted some information in an inappropriate section, but it does deserve some mention.

Here's a list of events:
 * TMNT Movie Review Part 1 gets removed
 * A few days later, Part 2 gets removed
 * Youtube contacts James, claiming it was a "mistake" on their part, and reinstated both parts
 * A month later, Part 2 is deleted again
 * All inquiries to youtube were responded to with, "It had inappropriate content."
 * Part 2 remains deleted to this date.

I no longer see Part 1 either, but I presume James had that one removed himself. Youtube has priority issues.

Also, screwattack's main youtube account was banned for over a month after they submitted copyright claims to other users that were submitting their videos. As far as I know, youtube never sent them a notice claiming they screwed up, but they were eventually reinstated.

It's probably good to note these on the article for all the people that ask, "Why aren't they submitting X to youtube?" all the time. Youtube's system is set up so that if enough children with alt accounts flag any video (save for a LonelyGirl, smosh, or LisaNova video), it will be deleted on the spot. There is no benefit of the doubt given to the top contributors that aren't in bed with youtube. User LittleKuriboh, with almost 45,000 subscribers, suffered this fate with almost half of his videos, and then was finally banned for submitting 'inappropriate content', when there was obviously none. He was reinstated, but has still never received a valid explanation. Hell, even my 20 inquiries to 20 different youtube addresses were ignored.SashaNein 12:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It would probably serve to briefly mention that he has a spin-off character called "Angry Movie Nerd", rather than place that under the same topic. Going into detail about how the videos were deleted isn't really relevant for his topic either, that would be better suited for a listing under "YouTube".  Just a thought. 75.111.109.49 15:44, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Derogatory description of "AVGN"
The article describes him as an "amateur filmmaker", something I feel is terribly wrong and mortifying. Can somebody modify this to a bit more neutral/beneficial statement? 04:17, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm gonna go ahead and remove this as it's clearly obvious that he's an amateur filmmaker. How do you find it's wrong? Down at the bottom of the page, his website is referenced, Cinemassacre.com. On that website features a wide array of amateur film making projects. You're commenting as if the statement is in one's benefit for some reason. It's a statement that points out the fact that he's an amateur filmmaker. It's not like someone said, "This guy is a highly well known director in major companies." and didn't cite sources. That's how you're taking it as. It's nothing more than a comment that he's an amateur filmmaker, which is true and the appropriate sources are listed down at the bottom of the page. Just because you're too lazy to click on them and read them doesn't mean someone needs to clarify the obvious. --IceSage 21:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Dude... hes an amateur. I've been keeping up with his movies and let me tell you HE'S TOTTALLY AN AMATEUR. Needless to say I like his videos. Even if he's apparently making a DVD he hasn't ever scored in the box office and he's never been televised. --[[User:SxeFluff|SxeFluff 21:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC)]] 16:41, 27 September 2007

If he lived of making movies, he would be a pro, but he has a job, and his movies are like a hobbie, so he is an amateur.Mrdelriego 00:11, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Rolfe has even said himself he's an amateur. Seeing as he does talk sessions to local film students, I would think he isn't doing major motion pictures or productions. I don't think he's real into doing that, I think he likes staying at this level to communicate and 'share the wealth' with his fans. Theseven7 (talk) 11:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

The Angry Video Game Nerd gets 15 minutes of fame (literally) on the Opie & Anthony Show
One of the better editors should find a way to integrate the details of this recognition into the AVGN section.

Audio Source

I think I hear administrators cringing.

There was also talk of featuring him on the show again today, but I cannot confirm if such took place. SashaNein 16:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll add it later. I thought it was just a local radio station, but it seems the show is pretty big.--Atlan (talk) 12:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. Check it out, the sentence structure may need work.--Atlan (talk) 13:36, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Silly discussion over "beer" instead of using the brand names. Avoid WP:OWN
Atlan wants it as "beer." The fact that the AVGN drinks Rolling Rock or whatever drink he has now is un-notable, according to him. I don't care to edit war over something so minute. Just make sure he doesn't take ownership of the article, please, because the way he went about removing it three times is starting to give off that feeling. I don't have time for this. SashaNein 03:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, let's talk like I'm not here. Definitely the best way to handle it. If you have such issues, you discuss with the editor in question, it's the polite way to do. Anyway, tell my why the brands of beer are notable and pertinent to the reviews then, and why it's necessary to mention it. I only changed it to avoid an awkward sentence that can only get more awkward whenever he decides to switch beers again. You should generally choose the sentence that can last a long time without editing it over a sentence that is subject to change all the time. Claiming I'm trying to own the article for a well thought out change to the article I defended only once is just stupid.--Atlan (talk) 12:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * OK. SashaNein 12:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, any arguments in favor of keeping the brands? I'm open to suggestions.--Atlan (talk) 12:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The fact that he drinks Rolling rock is a character trait that´s worth mentioning since he doesn´t drink just any beer, only Rolling rock. If I remember right he only drank Yuenling once in the show at the Spiderman review so I don´t think it´s noteworthy enough to be mentioned since it was a one-time change that was made for the joke. At least in the Simpsons review he drinks Rolling rock again. Wolfhunter987 17:44, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * He drinks Yuenling in his last video, Bugs Bunny's Birthday Blowout. I specifically checked for that, which prompted me to change the sentence in the article. I guess we could say he drinks Rolling Rock and Yuenling (without the switch part of the earlier sentence), but if he switches to any other beers we should just say beer.--Atlan (talk) 18:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn´t notice that in the latest video but I checked it and you´re right, he drinks Yuenling in it again for some reason. In that case I think your suggestion about mentioning them without the switch part is fine. Wolfhunter987 19:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I've added it as such.--Atlan (talk) 19:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * It seems to me that it should be "beer". The fact he drank Rolling Rock exclusively, and now drinks Yuenling is irrelevant.  The gag in the video is that the games drive him to drink, not drive him to drink something specific. 75.111.109.49 15:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * A little late to the party, but I'm going to have to disagree here. It's a character trait, and is something notable about the character. If it wasn't, they wouldn't have gone out of the way to make a joke about it in the Spiderman review anyway. If anything, it's worth noting that they changed an establish character trait at a particular time and made light of it on the show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EBwiz (talk • contribs) 03:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

A bit of cleaning
Nothing major, I just went through and kept things consistent, for example, multiple times through the article, it was referred to as "g1's" and then later "G1's". I kept the "G1" capitalization style and just went through a few sentences and made some minor re-wordings to sound more professional. Theseven7 10:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

The Iron Man of Gaming
Added the sub-section about it, since it is one the biggest thing ScrewAttack has ever done to the mainstream. Theseven7 05:55, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Let's be honest, it should have been called "Iron Man of Xbox" because the VAST majority of games that were played in the tournament were 360. Craig and Tom always hint at it, and show it, but never say it, but the site is heavily centered around Xbox 360. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.129.165.212 (talk) 03:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, but to be fair they have said that they will include a lot more consoles in the next one. The first one was thrown together real quick and it's a lot easier to find multiplayer based 360 games than any of the other consoles out. Theseven7 (talk) 11:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Removed GameJew, he left ScrewAttack
It was announced on SideScrollers a week or so ago that GameJew will now be working for GameVideos, owned by Ziff Davis.

I do think, however, that he should have his own article. Wasn't he the first one to receive a Wii in Los Angeles, and was featured on several major National TV News outlets? I remember seeing him on TV before I even saw him at ScrewAttack. SashaNein 18:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that AVGN should have his own wikipedia article. Also i removed the part that said he focuses only on the negative aspects of games because that is untrue. I have watched pretty much every one of his videos and im not like a creepy fan or anything, but alot of times he comments on the positive aspects of the game. I have played some of the games hes talking about and all of its true, he just does in a sort of extremely vulgar manner that offend some and think hes only negative. He does respect the positive aspects that exist in the games he reviews. and he should have his own article, i thought of that right away when i searched for him in wikipedia and he was just a tab on another article. There is alot more information that exists about him and it can all be put in a full article. We need to expand wikipedia and make the most information available to readers. Thoughts anybody? Linkman553 05:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I was talking about GameJew. Wikipedia administrators are currently heavily biased against James Rofle's character having a stand-alone article. SashaNein 18:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Age 27
I forgot to note the most obvious reference I had. On the Cinemassacre site in the news page, he celebrated his 26th birthday on July 10, 2006. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SashaNein (talk • contribs) 12:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Good call on Rolfe's age. I only checked his website, which has no mention of it (apart from a birthday message in the news section, apparently). You think we should add a source in the article for that and his occupation?--Atlan (talk) 16:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Metroid Relation
I think the Metroid franchise should be mentioned at least somewhere in the article considering the very name and logo is a power-up from the Metroid series, and their jingle heard in most intros to their videos is the same from a metroid song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.120.37 (talk) 21:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

True, but aside from the logo and noise, there isn't much else to be known. If anybody can find a way to note those facts without making it seem like trivia and relevant, then please do it? Theseven7 10:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

If anything, reference could be made to how the name was chosen. It could be possible to mention something like "ScrewAttack's domain name has been mistaken for a pornographic site, however, the name refers to a powerup in the Metroid series of games, and has no tie-ins to any adult entertainment industry." Obviously that's not the best description, but it's something. 75.111.109.49 15:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I've said it before, but it baffles me why they named the site after something from a Nintendo franchise, when the site is so centered around Xbox 360. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.129.165.212 (talk) 03:26, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I heard that they wanted to pick something classic and unique to name their site. Something that only select gamers will know its true meaning while everybody else will have to up. I know I had to when I first went to their site. Also they are not centered around the Xbox 360. If you look at their video game vaults, it contains mostly classic games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajbhai87 (talk • contribs)

Well according to there GameVault video of Gun.Smoke, they said they can relate due to having to place a symbol inbetween there name to pre-vent copyright issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.179.153.39 (talk) 02:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if they have to pay any royalties to Nintendo?--SkiDragon (talk) 05:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Angry Video Game Nerd seperate page
I believe that the AVGN should have his own page. If anything, place a good majority of Rolfe's work under a "James Rolfe" entry. The AVGN character is incredibly popular, and highly viewed. I've seen less important things have their own page with only a sentence on it. But yes, AVGN should have his own page, with a small blurb on the ScrewAttack page, or just a link to his own page. The length of the AVGN sub-topic is long enough to warrant another page, and more information could easily be provided, (i.e. game review listings, recurring characters, etc.). 75.111.109.49 15:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Past precedent has shown that there are select administrators that have a personal vendetta with James Rolfe's character.


 * Don't read these 'discussions' regarding the article's fate if you're the faint of heart or believe in the wikipedia system being objective at all.
 * July 22, 2006 - This is THE definitive article for deletion discussion that administrators base ALL of their arguments on when someone dares to recreate the deserving article. All 'keep' votes and arguments were deliberately discounted and ignored, but extremely rude delete votes that contribute nothing to the discussion, BY administrators, such as, "Delete, stir, and simmer with noodles." were acceptable.
 * December 17, 2006 - "AVGN isn't verifiable!!!1 No new information!!"
 * January 17, 2007 - Condescending administrator attacks.. "no new information", of course
 * February 6, 2007 - "Nothing new," same condescending administrator attacks


 * His standalone article has been deleted almost 10 times, each time stating that there have been "no new developments" since July of 2006. To put things in perspective, in July 2006, James made a post on his website celebrating 20,000 hits on his TMNT video, he had less than 10,000 youtube subscribers, and he had not signed on with GameTrailers.


 * As far as the administrators are concerned, the AVGN is still not hosted on a top 1,000,000 alexa ranked website (Oct 2007: GameTrailers top 500, ScrewAttack top 25,000, Cinemassacre top 35,000), he's never been covered by a third-party source (Opie & Anthony show, G4TV's Attack of the Show multiple times), and he's just a one-hit wonder with 20,000 views on a single video (Oct 2007: 9 million views on GameTrailers alone in 8 months). They will ignore new information. All of it. "No new developments since July 2006!" is the motto of the deletionist.


 * Administrators are very subjective as to what stays and what goes on this site. In Mr. Rolfe's case, as shown by a lot of the 'delete' votes, it was just a matter of WP:IDONTLIKEIT to them.


 * If you do attempt to write an article, it better damn well be a good one right off the bat and well sourced, including the mention of the 15-minute spot on the Opie & Anthony show. I have no faith whatsoever in the article staying up for more than a week. The ScrewAttack article has had a lot of crap added to it by random IPs that's really damaging the quality of the article. If somebody puts up something like, "The AVGN is this dude on Gametrailers and he is funny," the condescending administrator brigade will ban anything that ever mentioned James' character ever.


 * In my opinion, you should hold off on doing it at all. It's a miracle that the screwattack article is still here. Did you know that once they found out that the Angry Video Game Nerd was hosted on Gametrailers, they attempted to get the Gametrailers article deleted immediately!? Attempting to make an ANN/AVGN standalone article will put all of these articles in immediate danger. 216.37.86.10 13:33, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Why do Wikipedia administrators have to be so testy to NOT put AVGN's own article up. "He uses NAUGHTY LANGUAGE! Thereefore, he doesn't exist in my eyes!" GOD; and trying to delete a page JUST because there's AVGN stuff on it; what jerks! FREEDOM OF SPEECH. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.174.167.81 (talk) 00:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I saw an article in a Swedish magazine about the Angry Video Game Nerd... I think the topic could deserve an own article. Just be sure to save the information already written if it becomes deleted again. Lord Metroid 21:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Closing admins have justified WP:IDONTKNOWIT as proper delete votes on this third-party coverage in the past. 75.65.91.142 16:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Does it really matter? He's listed at YouTube celebrities, and anyone who wants to read about him is redirected here.  AfDs are not very fun.  Wait until another reliable source pops up.  Ichormosquito 23:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

AVGN has about as much detail here as a reasonable independent article could contain. If, and only IF, he were to break away from Screwattack or Gamestrailers and took his "act" (which it is), to a show sponsored, distributed, produced, by Comedy Central (best place for him), then yeah, he'd get an article all of his own.

Dr. R.K.Z —Preceding comment was added at 21:18, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Why? How about take down the article about Comedy Central unless if, and only IF, comedy central was to break away from TV and use instead an original for of telecommunication.

I feel redundant saying this, but this is retarded. Own article deserved. Anyone here heard of Screwattack prior to AVGN? &mdash; Ben pcc 19:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Just fixed some issues with grammar and re-wording
I did this before but I maintained and kept it more consistent and encyclopedia like. Theseven7 (talk) 11:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Chronological order
The order of the feature should mirror of how they were started on the site. I believe sidescrolelrs was the first, followed by VGV, then Angry Video Game Nerd, then (gamejew), then Top 10s then Captain S then Retro Remix then The Art in Gaming. Not sure when 60 second spoiler came in because Halo 1 and 2 was NOT the first Trunksamurai (talk) 19:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

60 Second Spoiler is the newest feature out of all of those. It began with BioShock and did Halo 1 and 2 to hype Halo 3, to spoil those who have yet to play those games. Theseven7 (talk) 09:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Please reupload the logo and add a "fair use rationale"
An admin looking for brownie points swooped down and deleted it. An image needs a "boilerplate" which tells why it's a fair use image, and needs a redundant "fair use rationale" to accompany it.

For an example, just copy-paste the rationale and boilerplate used on the page. (Another image of which someone tried to get brownie points on and wrongfully delete. And failed.)

Fair use rationale
The image linked here is claimed to be used under fair use because:


 * 1) it is a historically significant logo of a well known portal;
 * 2) the logo is only being used for informational purposes;
 * 3) its inclusion in the article adds significantly to the article because it represents the subject of this article.

Licensing
I'm sure next month they'll bring along a new rule saying that we need another rationale to justify the fair use rationale that usually reiterates the boilerplate. And we must also donate kittens to our overlords in the "not" Bureaucracy. "Fair Use Rationale" is a newer rule, and it's sad how hundreds of thousands of images that were within the guidelines in years past got laid to waste by kids looking for a pat on the back from their wikipeers. 75.65.91.142 (talk) 23:22, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

AVGN Captain S crossover canon?
This Christmas crossover special is called non-canon, but mentioning that Angry Video Game Nerd picks up where it left off (and leaving the special's story connection in question) is irrelevant since AVGN doesn't have a continuing storyline outside of a few connecting episodes. This could change in the future if the episodes become more narrative such as in the latest Christmas Carol episodes, but as of right now the Nerd pretty much doesn't have any continuity to detract from Captain S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.124.190 (talk) 12:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I tend to agree. While the Crossover is not canon for Captain S, it is canon for one particular Angry Video Game Nerd two part Christmas special. The implication that said Christmas special continues from the crossover should in no way draw into question the canon of the crossover in the Captain S series. TimeCruiserMike (talk) 06:18, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Fix the article
This article is very poorly formatted, and needs to be cleaned up and reorganized. Doshindude (talk) 16:25, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

List of editors for the ScrewAttack wiki
I'm sorry guys, but having something like this on this article looks very unprofessional and makes this look like a terrible article.

I appreciate the work you've done, but this list absolutely needs to be removed, else some hotshot admin will flag this entire ScrewAttack article for deletion. 75.66.233.162 (talk) 22:56, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

WAY ahead of you guys, cleared that off instantly, that is clearly not acceptable. Made a post about it below. Theseven7 (talk) 08:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Added stuff and deleted "ScrewAttack Wiki" subsection of site
No reason for a mid-article advertisement for a Wiki with names of Wikipedia editors in the article... a link in the external links is left, and that should simply be enough. This page isn't an advertisement, guys. Theseven7 (talk) 08:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Careful. You removed the article's references. That exposes this article to being deleted for having no references. 216.37.86.10 (talk) 16:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Life in a game and Hard News
They should be referenced somewhere in the article, because they have been officially announced as new shows. 86.44.92.24 (talk) 17:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

My Last 2 Edits
Should "Show" and "Featurettes" acctually be capitalizalized? And my last tag was that most of these sections headings should be italized.68.148.164.166 (talk) 08:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Craig's Interview
| HealingTouch Interview's Craig I'm not sure if you guys would like to scope that out or not. I'm not much for editing Wikis, but it was an interview that delves into some of the personal history and decision making of ScrewAttack and I'm sure it can be helpful in some way shape or form.--136.142.46.33 (talk) 19:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

No mention of Stuttering Craig and Handsome Tom in Far Cry?
There was a large fundraiser to get Craig and Tom in the Uwe Boll film Far Cry. They were able to fly up there to play a few very small roles. There was mention of this in Kotaku and the New York Post, as well. I thought this was in the article before, but someone probably snuffed it out for not having 'reliable sources' or some junk like that. Well, Brian Ashcraft of Kotaku is plenty reliable enough, so says WP:VG/RS. 216.37.86.10 (talk) 19:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

ScrewAttack Europe's Subsection
Shouldn't ScrewAttack Europe's shows be expanded into the main Shows category? Guru Larry's Retro Corner is one of the main features (and current running) features on Screwattack's website now, yet it's only got a sentence dedicated to it...--78.105.127.237 (talk) 02:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Info needs to be cut
This page has way to much in it, stuff needs to be cut out. People who come to the page don't need to know every singe fact about screwattack, they should just find out what the site is and what type of stuff they do, all of the other minuta isn't needed. The sections for all of the different videos need to be trimmed and consolidated. Basically, Side scrollers, out of the box, hard news, and top 10 should be given the most space since they are the most uneque and important. Vaults, VGR's, Scoops,the armery, and puntos can all be under a sub section for their game reviews (which Out of the Box could be in as well). Each of those should be described in a sentance or two such as:

VGV: not a true game review video game vaults simply look back and explain what made an older game really good or really bad. This segment is hosted on Gametrailers along with screw attacks top ten lists and the AVGN's videos. The scoop: Highscool Ben reviews a game breaking it down into it's pros and cons. Usually The Scoop is for games that are less wildly embraced by the gaming public Jose's Puntos: Jose El Mexicano runs through three tips that will help the viewer be better at a specific game. VGR: A more straight review. The reviewer runs through a game explaining it's strengths and weaknesses before giving the viewer their suggestion of "Buy it," "Rent it," or "F' it," meaning that you probably shouldn't even try it. The Armory: Dally Destin reviews a particular weapon from a game or franchise explaining how it is awesome enough to be "added to the Armory."

See that was quick and informative. They have to be cleaned up a bit, but with all of the different videos Screwattack has we can't linger to much on them. Similarly the third party vids should be lumped together and given a sentence or two explanation. Finally, can be a section for Unaware Steve, clip of the weak, and any of the other strange stuff they post that doesn't fit some place else and a section for Iron man and SGC: which doesn't need a complete recap of the last event, only notable info (like Jack Thompson coming to this one).

Oh we don't need to list every singe person who has had anything to do with screw attack (basically why is Byron on the list). If I have time I'll do some of this, but their is a lot to do.Pwright329 (talk) 06:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree, two things... 1. I am removing the interns: they are called interns for a reason, they are not Screwattack personalities. If you interned at any place of business you would not be on their staff list; Screwattack should not be an exception. 2. I am removing *todays nicknames of previous Screwattack personalities ie. New school Mickey/8-bit Mickey, they have nothing to do with Screwattack now so any decisions they make, on any basis, is irrelevant to this page and the site. These people were not known by their *new nicknames whilst being on Screwattack so when being referred to in a Screwattack context, they should be referred to by their real names or their old nicknames. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JDoogins (talk • contribs) 20:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Texting Of The Bread
I added a paragraph about ScrewAttack's new mobile game, Texting Of The Bread.

ScrewAttack Europe Censorship
In regards to "81.106.99.178"'s edits to this page, especially on Awesome Video games and ScrewAttack Europe which he claims are "self promotion",  I would like to know what is wrong with this segment that he keeps removing the majority of the parts.

His edits appear to be of a fan's perspective, so has been removing any criticism towards ScrewAttack and information about ex-members...

ScrewAttack Europe


Introduced in late 2006, ScrewAttack Europe, located in Northwood, London, UK, was the name used by video game enthusiasts and TV presenters Guru Larry (Larry Bundy Jr) and "UK" Wez (Wesley Lock) for voluntarily creating video game related content for ScrewAttack.com. ScrewAttack Europe was the first official international feature and the only outside group to have 'ScrewAttack' in their title. Alongside The Angry Video Game Nerd, ScrewAttack Europe was one of the longest lasting associates of ScrewAttack.

Working as TV presenters in real life Larry and Wez hosted a variety of videogame related content for various video gaming shows and networks in Europe, such as XLEAGUE.TV, Rapture TV and Game Network.

Their programs included:


 * Games Yanks Can't Wank, a series showcasing and making fun of video games never released in the United States or Canada
 * Hack-Job, a machinima-based sketch show
 * Pop-Up Review, a review show which posts false facts about games, parodying television shows such as Pop-Up Video.
 * Guru Larry's Retro Corner, from December 2007-April 2010, ScrewAttack.com aired episodes of ScrewAttack Europe's XLEAGUE.TV series Guru Larry's Retro Corner.

As of September 2010, due to lack of payment for their video content for ScrewAttack and complaints of bullying and harassment from ScrewAttack (such as the heads of ScrewAttack posting up personal and private information about Larry), Larry and Wez are no longer associated with the main ScrewAttack site. Larry and Wez have since dropped the name 'ScrewAttack Europe'. and have moved to rival company, Channel Awesome where they operate under their real names.

I would like to know.--FirecrackerDemon (talk) 02:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * There are several reasons why the article was edited. For a start, the article is about ScrewAttack Europe not the presenters themselves. This is why the second paragraph and the last sentence was removed from the article. The last paragraph was edited because there was no notable source that could verify such a comment. I tried looking through Google to find any news articles, court cases, notable and recognisable sources. I could not find references other than comments from forums and blogs, which are not notable sources. Also, there is a contradiction in the article, whereby, content was said to be made voluntarily, yet at the end of the article, it stated that there was a 'lack of payment' for video content. 81.106.99.178 (talk) 21:09, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * That Doesn't make sense, ScrewAttack Europe was Wez and Larry, just like James Rolfe is the AVGN. One would not exist without the other,  so it is totally relevant.  But where did you read about voluntary content?  That only applies to G1 submissions.  Content providers are paid members of ScrewAttack,  ScrewAttack is a business after all.--FirecrackerDemon (talk) 23:05, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The article is about ScrewAttack Europe; the division/company/subsidiary. It is not a biography of the presenters. Case in point, an article about Infinity Ward, should be about the company, not about Jason West and Vince Zampella themselves, even though they created the company in the first place. If ScrewAttack Europe was not division of it's parent company, ScrewAttack, but instead, it is just an alias for the collective that is Wez and Larry, then it should not be categorised as a division in the first place. ScrewAttack Europe should just be mentioned like an author or a production team in each of their produced shows in 'Previous Shows' section.


 * Read from UK Wez onwards for the voluntary context. Also, what is Guru Larry's Retro Corner? Doesn't actually describe what the show is all about. 81.106.99.178 (talk) 20:41, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Originally it didn't need one as it had it's own full article originally, But it's a video game retrospective series that was turned into a TV series in the UK,  Still is on TV on Sky (on Information TV and Showcase TV) in the PWNED segment.--FirecrackerDemon (talk) 23:25, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

No Death Battle page?
Ooookay so why the heck did the Death Battle show go from having it's own page, with a list of episodes.....to having a redirect to the screwattack page with this? "Death Battle - An animated series in which fights between different fictional characters are depicted, using research to determine a theoretical winner. " --AgentRedgrave215 (talk) 13:27, 18 August 2015 (UTC)