Talk:Scribblenauts (video game)/GA2

GA Review
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Reviewer: GamerPro64 (talk · contribs) 01:05, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

I will be taking up this review. Which will begin soon. GamerPro64 01:05, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Really should get this review started:
 * The lead is noticeably large, being four paragraphs long. Might need to be trimmed down and parts merged with each other.

GamerPro64 17:05, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * References
 * Ref 5, 26, 33, 34, and 94 are not cited.
 * Ref 2, 10, 12, 38, 43, 44, 55, 57 58, 69, 72, 73, 83 and 84 are all dead.
 * How reliable are "Vooks", "Go Nintendo", "Fast Company", "British Gaming", "Tiny Cartridge", and "Growing Up Oktaku" (cite 91)?


 * I don't have time to address all the links/issues presently, and might not before I'm on holiday travel. A couple points: Fast Company is a reliable source for business news - they're not Forbes but they are established. I'd have to double check through the others. --M ASEM  (t) 17:27, 21 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering if you're still going to work on this article. It's a week shy from a month since this review started with nothing much happening so I'm contemplating closing it as failed. GamerPro64  18:48, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Give me a few more days, I'm swamped on other things at the moment, but will try to get to fixing the refs and other aspects. --M ASEM (t) 18:55, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I gotcha. I'll look at the rest of the article and voice anymore concerns about it by then. GamerPro64  19:02, 7 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok, so I've gotten some time and have: fixed all the bad format refs, either found replacement URLs or archive URLs for the dead links, and did some link swaps, removing Vooks and Growing Up Oktaku (neither being required). Of the sources you have otherwise questioned: Fast Company is a reliable business news source (Beyond video games); Tiny Cartridge is based on two editors with experience on other major gaming websites (per ), and this is only for showing some of the Scribblenaut-ized art that has been done by 5th cell's artist, so not a serious RS sourcing problem (see ). Go Nintendo is only supporting some release dates, so I'm going to see if I can replace that, and the British Gaming this is a duplicative source from others so I could remove that. --M ASEM  (t) 21:51, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reply while you're in the middle of crunch time. I'll make sure to continue the review tomorrow. GamerPro64  01:37, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Continuing review. Just stuff I've seen that really caught my eye:
 * Gameplay
 * "As such, the developers consider the game to strongly promote emergent gameplay.[8]" Is this part necessary in the "Gameplay" section?
 * "The game always rewards the player with "Ollars", its in-game money" I read the citation to this and it didn't really mention how you always get the Ollars. Maybe change that sentence a bit?


 * Development
 * The explanation of how Scribblenauts being inspired by Mad Libs and a dream doesn't look to be supported by the ref that's with it.
 * The "Promotion" section doesn't seem to be using the proper tense when talking about the pre-order.
 * The second paragraph to the "Engine" section is unreferenced.


 * Reception
 * "IGN readers ranked the world debut article about Scribblenauts as the eighth best Nintendo DS article of 2008 on their web site." Rework the sentence and add reference.


 * Legacy
 * The entire section is more like a section about its sequels than an actual Legacy section. Should probably be re-titled as "Sequels". Unless there is a way to make it show that the game has a legacy beyond the sequels it has. Also the section for "Super Scribblenauts" needs to be sourced.

As an add-on I think this page might need to get copyedited. Just someone might need to look at the prose of the article. If I find more issues in the article, I'll bring them up. But for now, here's what I've seen so far. GamerPro64 04:36, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Addressed these points; to note: I have a better ref that clearer identifies you get Ollars for each successful solution; the missing refs about Mad Libs and the Engine I have cited (it was a Gamasutra article article in use); and I've removed that IGN statement as that's more about IGN and not about Scribblenauts. --M ASEM  (t) 07:10, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm going to request a second opinion on this article. I'm not sure I myself would be able to do a through check of the article to see it meets GA criteria. Hope that's all right. GamerPro64  18:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Second opinion
I'll provide a second opinion, expect it to be finished either later today or tomorrow. Freikorp (talk) 00:07, 22 January 2015 (UTC) Review complete. These are the only outstanding issues I can see. If they were addressed I would pass the article. Freikorp (talk) 01:05, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * A fair few duplicated links. Emergent gameplay appears twice in the lead. Brain Age appears twice in Development. IGN and Ars Technica appear three times in 'Reception'; 1UP.com,Keyboard Cat and GameSpy appear twice. Robot and Super Scribblenauts appears twice outside of lead.
 * "During development, Slaczka and the team tried to figure out what the DS was all about, trying to make Scribblenauts appeal to everyone." Maybe i've missed something obvious, but I don't understand what you're trying to say here - what is the DS "all about"?
 * "The title Scribblenauts began as a temporary name to replace it that would work better for pitching the game." I think this reads quite awkward. Suggest dropping "to replace it" as that's a bit redundant, and perhaps changing "work better" to "be more effective". Also avoid contractions like "couldn't", which appears later in the sentence.
 * "Konami published the game in Japan on January 27, 2011, which features Konami characters such as Old Snake, Manaka Takane and the Vic Viper." Does only the Japanese version contain these characters? Also I suggest placing the information on Konami characters in the middle of the sentence, and the date at the end.
 * "to the point that the implementation "almost kills a fantastic game"." I don't like how this quote isn't attributed to anyone.
 * "The game was very well received at the 2009 E3". Suggest trimming 'very'.
 * "IGN's Ryan Geddes criticized the game's poor controls and physics to require an amount of patience to overcome in order to enjoy the game". Awkward wording.
 * "In a postmortem, 5TH Cell's co-founder Joseph Tringali". Postmortem? Is it supposed to link to Autopsy? I don't understand.
 * "Reviewers also identified some unexpected behavior from some objects or combinations of them, leading to an inconsistency in the difficulty of the various puzzles." Any chance we can get a specific example of this?
 * It would be nice if the 'Super Scribblenauts' sub-section contained at least one reference.
 * Official website in 'External links' section redirects - URL needs updating


 * I've gone and addressed all the points above. --M ASEM (t) 21:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Well done. I'm happy for this to pass, but i'm not sure if the original reviewer is the only one who can formally pass it, so i'll wait to see what  has to say. Freikorp (talk) 23:30, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Took a look at the sources again. Clicked the Business Wire link (cite 76) and it seemed to be broken. As well, were you able to find any sources to replace the "Go Nintendo" and "British Gaming" references or are they the only sources that can support the material? GamerPro64  00:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I've replaced one GoNin with a Gamespy link for release; the other GoNin link I can't find any suitable replacement for but the fact is trivial (the Post 217 being a poster in one localization of a mag), and the British Gaming ref is duplication. I've also fixed the Business Wire link. --M ASEM (t) 00:13, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I think that this article meets the criteria now so I am passing it. If anyone has an issue with it becoming a Good Article, you can take it to WP:GAR to have it reassessed. Cheers. GamerPro64 02:38, 26 January 2015 (UTC)