Talk:Scrooge (1951 film)

ghost of christmas future
who here besides me thinks that the ghost of the future in this adaptation looks a lot like death from ingmar bergman's the seventh seal? because i watched this 4 or 6 times recently and i noticed that the hand looked alot like the skin of death from that film. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.175.1.237 (talk) 00:37, 24 December 2006 (UTC).
 * I've never seen 'the seventh seal', however there's a blooper in the film. Scrooge's mother dies given him birth (the cause of his father's hatred for him), yet Scrooge has a younger sister 'Fan'. She could only be, his half-sister, perhaps this blooper could be added to the article. GoodDay 01:15, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I just watched the movie and I can't recall any reference to Fan being his *younger* sister. 70.66.236.249 20:08, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Removed the younger sister blooper, it's only in a book version (Fan being a younger sister). [THE book version, in fact (i.e., Dickens' original). Kostaki mou 03:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)]  You're correct it's not mentioned in the movie. GoodDay 00:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Scrooge does, however, refer to her as "Little Fan" in the movie. It's still a blooper: The ghost says that Scrooge's father never forgave him for his mother's death, while the scene with Fan makes it clear that he did indeed!

Kostaki mou 03:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

If I could get back on point, I fixed the description of the Ghost of Christmas Future having a "bony" hand. It doesn't look bony at all.John Simpson54 (talk) 05:32, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Not until 1970?
The article says, "The film did not attain its current popularity until about 1970, when it began to be shown on television."

Not so. I remember seeing it when I was a kid in the '50s. (1958 at the latest.)

Kostaki mou 03:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

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Different Titles
Why is the British title and the American title (Scrooge) different? Scarborough Res (talk) 03:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Music
Am trying to find out the name of the polka used at the end of the movie; anyone know? Bracelets (talk) 19:36, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Something in the mirror on scrooge?
I have been watching scrooge and in the final seen where Alistair looks in the mirror on the morning of christmas day. There is something behind him! I thought this may be one of the crew but surely Alistair would have noticed when he was filming. Take a look and see what you think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pakefield (talk • contribs) 15:18, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh it's a crewmember alright -- he looks to be taking a smoke break. You can actually see him in the mirror twice, very clearly.  One can only assume that Sim couldn't see this crewmember in the mirror from his angle, or (more likely) that Sim saw him, but assumed the camera wasn't picking up this reflection.  Now, how the director and camera operator failed to pick it up is a bit of a mystery...


 * Incidentally, I've always privately considered this mirror spectre to be a sort of fifth ghost, hovering in the background to make sure Scrooge's Christmas morning conversion actually took! 70.27.2.244 (talk) 04:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Scrooge's visit to his nephew's IS in the book
In "Comparison with the source material," the article gives the impression that the scene in which Scrooge visits his nephew's house on Christmas Day is not based on a similar scene in the novella, but it is. In the book, it follows the business of Scrooge's second encounter with the gentlemen collecting for the poor, and precedes his Boxing Day "raise your salary" joke on poor Bob Cratchit. In the film, Scrooge has a rather shorter conversation with Fred's maid than in the book; in fact I don't believe the maid speeks at all in the movie. Scrooge also arrives in time for dinner in the book, before Topper and the other guests, whereas in the film he arrives during the performance of an after-dinner duet (Barbara Allen's Cruelty, which was sister Fan's leitmotif in earlier scenes -- one of many nice musical touches), with all the guests present. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.15.1.151 (talk) 16:45, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Christmas morn and Scrooge opens the window.
76.116.217.206 (talk) 03:40, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Says to boy to fetch prize turkey; boy seems to say, "Wha cur!" What's that mean? Is it slang from 1951 London?


 * He says "Walk-er", as in the book. "Walker" was a nineteenth-century colloquialism equivalent in meaning to "humbug".  Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/In_%27A_Christmas_Carol%27_by_Charles_Dickens_what_does_the_term_%27walker%27_mean#ixzz195hxkyt2


 * 70.27.1.73 (talk) 03:39, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Original Research?
For crying out loud, don't the film and the book themselves qualify as sources? Anyone familiar with both can verify or refute anything here. (I have seen "proper" cites on Wikipedia of works that did not in fact support the claims they were supposed to back up.) Kostaki mou (talk) 23:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Book of the film
Worth mentioning that there was a book of the film - containing stills from the film which told the story? I had the book but cannot remember the publisher dates etc. Jakescows (talk) 19:05, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Sim's performance
The article should mention that Sim's performance as Scrooge is often considered too comical. (109.156.191.254 (talk) 12:30, 26 November 2018 (UTC))

Minor Edits
Fixed Scrooge's job with Jorkin. He didn't start out as a partner as previously described but as a clerk. I also clarified that during the embezzlement scene with Jack Warner Scrooge and Marley are at this time Board Members of the Amalgamated Mercantile Society when they make their offer to restore the missing funds in return for being allowed to purchase up 51% of the shares.John Simpson54 (talk) 05:36, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

"there 'taint any extra"
What the waiter says is, "Ha'penny extra" (i.e., there is an extra charge of a half penny for more bread. Scrooge shows his avarice by deciding not to have more bread in order to avoid this tiny extra charge.  Kostaki mou (talk) 17:40, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

"The tragic folk song 'Barbara Allen' is . . . sung by a duet at Fred's Christmas party. Scrooge turns up just as they are about to sing the line 'Young man, I think you're dying.'"
Actually, they stop just before the last two words. Kostaki mou (talk) 21:26, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

PERSONAL EXPEREINCE

In December 1999 I was in London, England. I was delighted to see that the Sim film had been restored and was playing in first-run movie theatres on special engagement. Now THERE is a country that knows its priorities!

Seeing it on the big screen, you realize it was a far more expensive production than the small TV screen lets on. It was the highlight of a week's visit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.23.5.11 (talk) 14:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)