Talk:Scythian religion

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Oetosyrus ( Οἰτόσυρος ) is the name of a Scythian divinity. Another name for the divinity, according to Hesychius, is Goetosyrus.

Qualities
Herodotus identified the god with Apollo. SP Macleod states this is a god of crops and herbs, who defended against wild animals and diseases. Oetosyrus is thought to have possibly represented the sun, that is to have been the Scythian sun god,   for one source, an italian manuscript, the god is identified with Mithra, the Persian sun-god.

Worship
In acts of worship to this god, the Scythians would not have used any constructed thing such as temples or altars or statues, as is customary for that people except for in any case in worship of Ares (Herodotus in ref. Jacobson).

Animal worship
With regards specifically to animal-worship, Rudenko (Russian: Руденко) cites Lappo-Danilevsky as  considering the griffin to represent an attribute of Oetosyrus.

Pantheon
Oetosyrus was not the head of the pantheon, its' position in the hierarchy and the roles accorded to the god exist solely from translations made by Greek sources.

Connection to Zoroastrianism
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.194.243.137 (talk) 16:47, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Can you elaborate? What quote from that section is where the author states that the Scythian religion has similarities to Zoroastrianism?  He seems to be saying that the Scythian religion was essentially the same as the pre-zoroastrian religion and that it was in direct conflict with Zoroastrianism.  Squatch347 (talk) 17:17, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, for one thing it draws attention to the veneration of fire (through Tabiti) :

"[...]but from it it appears that their faith was essentially the general Old Iranian one, with, cultically, veneration paid in 'in especial' to the hearth fire (Hestia), and carried out without images, altars or temples." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.194.243.137 (talk) 19:24, 4 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Yep, saw that, but I don't think that really answers my question. Where does the book note that that is a comparison with Zoroastrianism? Squatch347 (talk) 14:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Right there in that paragraph. Plus it goes into how Scythian gods inspired the notions of the daevas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.194.243.137 (talk) 21:32, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the issue is clearer to you than it is to me. When he is describing the "Old Iranian one" in earlier paragraphs he doesn't seem to be describing Zoroastrianism at all.  Squatch347 (talk) 15:02, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I changed the comment "level" to keep up. I don't know how many pages there are in the second volume of the referenced "history" book but "Mary Boyce, A History of Zoroastrianism: Volume II: Under the Achaemenians, BRILL, 1982" (shows 306 pages) seems to miss an important page number so is vague. I can likely attach "similarities" to most mythology (Greek, Roman, Scythian [See: Pantheon section] and many others) so there needs to be reasoning to point out "at least superficial lvel (level?) of similarity". Why the addition of "still extant". Zoroastrianism (a pretty big article) states: "...is one of the world's oldest religions that remains active." so it is not hard to assume there is still existing writings and certainly either a whole lot of original research on that article or the religion is obviously "extant". The second paragraph of the lead states "With possible roots dating back to the second millennium BCE, Zoroastrianism enters recorded history in the 5th-century BCE." and a reference pointing to supposed "extant" writings. While additions are great I do question the particular wording, sources, and relevance. Otr500 (talk) 21:38, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Signing comments
I have noticed in several places around Wikipedia where many comments are made that are not signed. I have made that mistake more than once but comments should be signed. Thanks, Otr500 (talk) 22:31, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This obscure talk page probably won't get much notice, but when I see an unsigned comment, I look through the page history and add unsigned with the username and date. Sometimes a bot will do that for us. -- Beland (talk) 06:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)