Talk:Seabiscuit

Birth / Death
I was just curious -- we have Category:XXXX births and... does this belong? It's not typical that we have animal's births and deaths but since we do here do we add it? I just found that to be a humorous, yet legitimate question. gren 01:49, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)]

I've put his birth in under May 23 Events, with explanatory note Martyn Smith 16:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Is there some way to get rid of the vandalism at the top of this article? I know this article is a current featured article so it may be difficult.

What are you referring to??? Wahkeenah 03:47, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Maybe you meant the weird comment about the Germans, which someone else fixed. Here's a novel idea: How about FREEZING the articles they want to "feature", to keep the grubby paws of the Great Unwashed from tinkering with them. Wahkeenah 03:51, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

How did the biscuit die, and at an early age?

Seabiscuit died from a heart attack in his stall, at age 14 if I am not mistaken. thehappyanole 21:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

How much money is that?
Dollar amounts of race prizes from the 1930s are mentioned in the article. Are these in 1930s dollars, or in 2005 dollars? If someone knows, it'd be worth a mention. Under the assumption that they're 1930s dollars, it'd be nice to have parenthetical comments on the 2005 value, if someone knows how to do that. Zashaw 28 June 2005 05:34 (UTC)

Converting US dollar amounts to "current" dollar amounts can be done using this tool: Inflation Calculator 1800 - 2005 --Kellsboro Jack 03:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Vandal
Sorry, the article was vandalised by 12.5.232.253, not 71.131.217.215Stephen 06:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Questions
I see the horse was only 14 when he died. That's young, what was the cause of death?

What is meant by a *bay* colt? Martyn Smith 16:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Follow the link next to colour in the info box it links to Bay (horse)--rogerd 18:32, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I have a question. Why did Wikipedia remove all the links to the Unofficial Thoroughbred Hall of Fame, including the one on this article, when this website was a reference for many horse racing related articles? It accused me of spamming by adding the link to Alydar, and now all mentions of the site are gone. Alydar was the first one I added myself, and I did so because the link was relevant, on topic, contained further information on the specific topic not provided in the article, and did not offer any products for sale. How are links selling baseball caps not spam, but a relevant link is?

I have long been interested in Seabiscuit's genetic legacy, especially his daughters, who would have inherited his X chromosome and therefor his "big heart". The article mentions 108 foals, of which only two were successful racehorses, and they appear to have been males. But what about his daughters and their progeny? Information about them would be welcome. Janice Vian, Ph.D. (talk) 03:15, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

FAR Nomination
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As mentioned above, Seabiscuit died of a heart attack in his stall. Hope this helps! thehappyanole 21:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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— Save_Us _ 229  21:15, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I did my best to edit this page and remove any inaccurate information. Also, I was curious as to why the photo of Seabiscuit was of someone standing by his statue. . . Is it possible to locate a new photo for this article, that portrays the horse? Thanks so much! thehappyanole 21:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The statue was all I could find in Commons, most images of Seabiscuit are subject to copyright--as was noted in the 2007 discussion above. If you can find something better, no problem, the statue can move elsewhere in the article if a replacement image of the actual horse can be located.   Montanabw (talk) 04:38, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Tea's Over
The mare was called Tea's Over. see Tigerboy1966 (talk) 22:16, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

btw this article is far too light on citations for a B class. I think C would be generous considering it's tagged. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 22:23, 16 January 2012 (UTC)


 * So much vandalism, easy to miss the correct edits. Sorry about that. No problem with you making the correction and fixing the classification. See also http://www.pedigreequery.com/seabiscuit if needed, though.

Notable race won section
Can't really see the point of this section. We have "major wins" in the infobox and a very detailed account of the horse's career. This seems redundant. The fact that he ran 89 times would be better in the lede.  Tigerboy1966  08:05, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * As long as the 89 starts are cited, I agree the location and various distances are irrelevant, other than maybe the outer ranges, But the amount he raced IS kind of a big deal when you look at the short careers of modern US race horses. Also, considering he was a cull who was unbelievably over at the knees and looked like he should fall flat on his face, his relative soundness throughout his career was remarkable.   Montanabw (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Potential (very) longstanding copyvio
Hey, all, I have concerns about the "Injury and return" section. I removed a brief section of copyvio from it, but I'm worried that the section as a whole is itself a copyvio. Its language is rather un-clinical, which I find to be at least a yellow flag for copyvio. The section has been this way since 2004(!), though, which makes it difficult to actually judge this. The possible source for this text is http://levota.com/-.html, dated 1999, but I can't verify whether that page actually predates the wiki article; the earliest Wayback Machine entry for the levota site is 2008, which is inconclusive. Nevertheless, I'm suspicious; the article's language doesn't *exactly* match the source's, even back when it was first inserted (while still being far far too close paraphrasing): slightly changing the text is something I would expect from a copying *to* Wikipedia, not a copying *from* Wikipedia.

What can be done here? I understand that this is all ancient history, but I don't think there's any (metaphorical) statute of limitations on copyvio. Thoughts? 216.113.160.71 (talk) 18:45, 7 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I doubt a family blog was the original source, they probably copied from Wikipedia, that happens a lot. Montanabw (talk) 04:23, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

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The film is a truckload of Disneyfied bullcrap. As is "Secretariat". "National Velvet" is about as realistic. For further details, contact me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.59.165.242 (talk) 08:32, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Early death
Any chance of expanding that section. I think it’s quite notable Seabiscuit died so young. For example Man O’War lived till 30. A good age for a horse with an average lifespan of 25-30 years.

Cynically was doping rife at this time in racing? It just seems such a young age for a healthy horse to die. 86.148.81.72 (talk) 12:54, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

DNA
Just leaving this here for now.  Tigerboy1966  15:48, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Betteridge's law of headlines zchrykng (talk) 15:52, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Reason for name
In the article it says Seabiscuit got his name from his Sire "Hard Tack", Seabiscuit being a variation of hardtack and a biscuit sailors eat. The only citation for this was a cookbook article containing hardtack as a recipe. Let me know if anybody else finds more on this. MaximusEditor (talk) 18:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Might be WP:OR MaximusEditor (talk) 18:45, 8 May 2024 (UTC)