Talk:Sealand (disambiguation)/emails

From - Mon Nov 25 19:06:38 2002 X-UIDL: 52a8173e6edb90b0a70ea12648fed115 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 10000000 Return-Path:  X-Flags: 1001 [cut] Received: from office3 [212.159.70.130] by mail.con2.com (SMTPD32-6.06) id AABA29A3012A; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 04:17:46 -0500 Message-ID: <00b501c29463$adc77b80$170ba8c0@office3> From: "Bureau of Internal Affairs"  To: "Walter Vermeir"  References: <3DD00C70.5060506 AT vermeir.com> Subject: Re: use of photo's of Sealand Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:14:56 -0000 [cut]

Your recent e-mail has been passed to this office for attention.

The Bureau has reviewed your draft text and finds it helpful and clearly and logically set out. We are grateful for your expressions of interest and support.

We attach our current chart of government structure and the State Specification for our national flag should you find them of interest; details of our social and economic activities since the mid-90's are on file with the Statistics Division of the United Nations in New York.

We would suggest replacement of the final paragraph of text [located immediately prior to the 'legal opinions regarding Sealand' section] by the following:

"One of the more prominent industries located within the Principality is Havenco Limited, an internet-based company which was founded by American entrepreneurs some four years ago and which has leased on a permanent basis land for its corporate offices. One of the co-founders, Ryan Lackey, has with various colleagues built the company into what is now a responsible competitive and successful international component of internet services offered globally.  The company, which offers secure hosting of servers offering services requiring absolute security, is subject to Principality Law which prohibits absolutely any activities connected in any way with criminal terrorist or other similar activities, but which upholds the right of free expression."

The Bureau hereby grants use of the images set out in your correspondence; we should be pleased to assign to your publisher a copyright licence should you wish it and would be pleased to receive a request therefor by post to the address below.

Finally, should your publication appear in hard copy, we should like one of these for deposit in our state archives.

Again, many thanks for a job well-done.

Chief of Bureau Bureau of Internal Affairs Principality of Sealand SEALAND 1001

(c/o Sealand Post Bag, IP11 9SZ, UK) - Original Message - From: "Walter Vermeir"  To:  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: use of photo's of Sealand

> Greetings, > > I am Walter Vermeir and a member of the international Wikipedia project. > Wikipedia is a project to produce a free and complete encyclopedia in > every language. I am from the Dutch Wikipedia. Sorry for my poor English. > > Because Wikipedia is a encyclopeadia we also make articels about countrys. > > This is the current articel of the English Wikipedia about the > Principality of Sealand: > http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand > (if you see a error you can change it, click on "Edit this page" or tell > my if you like) > > I would like to make the articel better, like this; > http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium > > Question; > Can the Principality of Sealand give permission to use absolutly free > the following pictures;(put it in the public domain or the under the GNU > Free Documentation License) > > http://www.sealandgov.org/images/sealand_map.gif > http://www.sealandgov.org/images/sealand_sm.jpg > http://www.fruitsofthesea.demon.co.uk/sealand/images/fortress.jpg > http://www.fruitsofthesea.demon.co.uk/sealand/images/sealnd10.jpg > http://www.fruitsofthesea.demon.co.uk/sealand/images/sealnd11.gif > http://www.fruitsofthesea.demon.co.uk/sealand/images/sealnd13.jpg > > > Thanks for your time, > Walter Vermeir > > Volunteer of Wikipedia NL > >

Attachments; From - Mon Nov 25 19:06:41 2002 X-UIDL: 48e810d90ad6a210770c8ae8cd2a8aa1 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path:  [cut] Received: from office3 [212.159.70.130] by mail.con2.com (SMTPD32-6.06) id ABF118EE0142; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 04:22:57 -0500 Message-ID: <00bc01c29464$671ba2a0$170ba8c0@office3> From: "Bureau of Internal Affairs"  To: "Walter Vermeir"  References: <3DD00C70.5060506 AT vermeir.com> Subject: Re: use of photo's of Sealand Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:20:44 -0000 [cut]
 * [[Media:Govstrct.doc]] chart of government structure of the The Principality of Sealand
 * [[Media:SPEC 011201a.doc]] the State Specification for the national flag of The Principality of Sealand

On a further note subsequent to our recent e-mail regarding the Sealand entry, please note that in the first introductory sentence, the Principality is not a 'micronation' but rather a 'microstate'.

You may know of the abuse of the 'nation' concept by many who interpret the definition precisely as 'a group of individuals with a common interest' and have created virtual 'nations' on the internet as well as in other places. We as a State have no part in such virtual activities; the Principality and its residents is hardly a virtual reality but rather something that exists in bricks, mortar, and over 35 years of hard labour and its accompanying sweat and tears.

Many thanks again.

Chief of Bureau Bureau of Internal Affairs Principality of Sealand SEALAND 1001

(c/o Sealand Post Bag, IP11 9SZ, UK)

To Ta bu shi da yu
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Many thanks for your e-mail to us here.

We can confirm that the image identified is in the public domain.

In addition, we remain concerned about the information currently on file = concerning the Principality; you will no doubt be aware that we have a = history which has excited many individuals some of whom wish to portray = an incomplete or incorrect [or both] impression of life here; we attach = a copy of our World FactBook submission which is factually correct [the = statistical data has long been on file with the UN] and which we hope = you can use to correct the inaccuracies relating to our country.

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance; for = confirmaiton, you may wish to write to us here at the address below and = we will happily forward to you hard copies from our offices here.

Many thanks for your support in promoting our life here and attempting = to create correct and comprehensive records concerning us.

Chief of Bureau

Bureau of Internal Affairs Principality of Sealand SEALAND 1001 (c/o Sealand Post Bag, IP11 9SZ, UK)

Offices open daily 06-16

- Original Message - From: ta.bu.shi.da.yu at gmail.com To: burint at sealandgov.org Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:46 AM Subject: License for image

Hello,

We have licensed the image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sealand_fortress.jpg as being under the GFDL (more info can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFDL). Unfortunately, it isn't clear that we have permission to do this by yourselves, and we don't want to break your copyright.

Would it be possible for you to clarify that you allow us to license the image under the GFDL?

Incidently, I think that your micro-nation is a pretty cool idea! Amazing you managed to get away with it :-) If I was the govt I'd recognise you in a heart beat!!! That's just my opinion, btw, and not necessarily a position that Wikipedia holds.

Ta bu shi da yu Wikipedia administrator