Talk:Sean Baker (soldier)

AfD result
&mdash; J I P | Talk 18:34, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

NPOV Issues
The article is not neutral in language or tone. For example, it uses the phrase revealed in quoting Baker and recant for the US Govt. See also the use of "only after Baker managed to state". This article reads like a closing argument to the jury on behalf of one party. Further, there are gratuitous, unsourced rhetorical comments, such as the last paragraph about public relations. Finally, the sourcing is suspect given the fact that this is in litigation. If this article were really about Sean Baker, as opposed to agitprop, then where is his date of birth? Where is his high school info? His photo? Joaquin Murietta 17:00, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


 * This article has been updated since JM placed the tag. JM's note expresses a concern over "the last paragraph".  That paragraph is no longer the last paragraph.


 * The DoD changed its position on whether Baker was injured during the training exercise. At first they said his discharge was unrelated to the beating.  La


 * JM is concerned that there were no sources. Well there are sources now.


 * JM says the sourcing is suspect since there is litigation. The basic facts are not in dispute.  The DoD id not denying he was severely beaten, or that the beating caused his seizures.


 * JM objected to the use of the word "recant". But he didn't suggest an alternative.  Would he similarly object to "reverse"?


 * JM criticizes a lot of articles on the grounds that they don't supply the subject's birth date. JM has never explained why this should be a serious concern.  The wikipedia is a work in progress.  It currently contains more than 750,000 articles.  A lot of those articles will start small, and grow, as more people contribute to them, and fill in the edges.  The most significant event in Sean Baker's life was this beating.  It is completely reasonable to start this article with that event.


 * This tag, IMO, should be removed. --  Geo Swan 22:48, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

DisputeCheck Issues
No sourcing at all, other than reference to wikipedia articles such as jumpsuit. Joaquin Murietta 17:05, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Source provided. --  Geo Swan 14:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Time for you to rewrite it. Please see my coments on Benyam Mohammed on your talk page. All of these stubs have the same problems. You include paragraph after paragraph of POV detail, but forget to put in the basic facts about the person. This article should be one third its current size and the links should include the original source links such as published opinions and briefs, as opposed to just relying on news articles. Joaquin Murietta 15:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Facebook Post On Viral
Good evening,

Most people had already seen it, but there's a Facebook post going viral, with around 66k shares, and 5.3 likes, of a screenshot of a about a man with the same name, making an offensive comment that's targeted at a person who unfortunetly died in police custody.

My recommendation would be, once a major news outlet has reported this incident, and until its proven it's the same person, the source be posted on this page, as long it conforms to the Verifiability policy

Thanks, Juanlove5555 (talk) 00:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

This sentence was just removed by another editor on the grounds of relevance. I would argue that it should stay removed regardless of relevance, because the two sourced articles do not allege that the Sean Baker Sr who posted the offensive comment is the same individual who was beaten in Guantanamo. A picture is included, which does appear to match pictures from interviews, but relying on that would be Original Research, and especially suspect original research, because it relies on the work of a doxxing group who one article implied to have incorrectly guessed his job. Maltice (talk) 15:11, 5 April 2023 (UTC)