Talk:Sean Tejaratchi

Edit request
The article states that Tejaratchi worked for the Portland Mercury in the 1990s, but the paper was not launched until 2000. Per the source material, Tejaratchi served as the newspaper's first art director in the early 2000s. Omitted references to him working at the Mercury in 1991, but the section discussing his 2000 career still needs to be reworked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChristenMcCurdy (talk • contribs) 19:01, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion opposed
I would have made this change myself but I am past fucking around with wikitext and can't get visual editor to work and I'm not even going to bother with the wikipedia wresteling match.

Plenty of citations: https://www.google.com/search?biw=1443&bih=750&tbm=nws&q=Sean+Tejaratchi+&oq=Sean+Tejaratchi+&gs_l=serp.3...17220.17220.0.17466.1.1.0.0.0.0.203.203.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..0.0.0.khYloAxX6vs

his personal websitehttp://liartownusa.tumblr.com/

https://www.wired.com/2014/10/new-alphabet-book-dozens-offbeat-drawings-every-letter/ http://boingboing.net/2017/04/21/liartown-forthcoming-book-fro.html http://www.printmag.com/daily-heller/liartown-lying-is-its-own-reward/

I would have made this change myself but I am past fucking around with wikitext and can't get visual editor to work and I'm not even going to bother with the wresteling match that is wikite

I have removed the proposed deletion tag. The rationale for the proposed deletion was as follows:

"Does not meet Wikipedia's guidelines for Notability_(people). Most of the links on the page are not to secondary sources but instead to Mr. Tejaratchi's own work."

Regarding the subject's notability

As per Notability (people): For Wikipedia:Notability (people), the person who is the topic of a biographical article should be "worthy of notice" – that is, "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded"

While this is certainly a matter that comes down to personal opinion and interest, IMO the fact that Tejaratchi is a graphic designer by trade who is known for his graphic Crap Hound publications, (zines that contained almost all imagery and very little text,) but is also notable for his prose via Twitter, (notable enough to have been acknowledged by a major publication like Rolling Stone,) would fall under the category of "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded."

It should also be noted that the references to the information contained within the introductory paragraph include Out Magazine (an article in which Tejaratchi is featured alongside two other graphic artists, one of whom being "Seattle's pioneering graphic designer Art Chantry"; Tejaratchi is also introduced in the article as "one of Chantry's favorite young bucks on the visual scene" — evidence that even those within his artistic milieu recognise Tejaratchi's talent,) The Portland Mercury (who refer to him as "a reluctant star of the zine world"), a book about clip art and digital imagery and their importance within the field of Graphics Design (that devotes and entire chapter to the artist and makes reference to his "legendary clip-art zine, Crap Hound"), and Rolling Stone (who refer to him as a "'zine legend" — all of which are secondary and reliable sources. Another referenced article from the San Francisco Bay Guardian that mentions an exhibition of "nine seminal zine makers" and goes on to list nine names, including Tejaratchi.

One might also add the fact about the Banksy controversy to the opening paragraph; having his own words attributed to a notable fellow artist such as Banksy also lends to Tejaratchi's own notability.

Regarding the "most of the links" comment


 * There are 27 references in this article and 10 of them can be sourced back to Tejaratchi. 10 out of 27 doesn't account for "most of the links." In addition:
 * 9 of said links actually originate from a single source — the 9 separate references are simply the different time stamps at which one can hear the specific details being referenced (much like providing separate page notations for different references from the same hard-copy source.)
 * The other reference would be #24 which is from a direct response that Tejaratchi posted to his publisher's website in response to a controversy surrounding a quote of Tejaratchi's work that was mistakenly attributed to the artist Bansky. This would be no different than referencing a piece written by the subject to a newspaper's editor in response to an article published about themselves that was inaccurate, or an official "press release" from the subject's own PR company to refute or clarify allegations made in the media. Tejaratchi's words were misattributed in a post that went viral via social media, and as a result a claim of plagiarism was inaccurately leveled at Bansky by Gawker (a highly trafficked media news and gossip site) and so Tejaratchi responded to this controversy via the web; it only makes sense to reference the direct source of said web-response.
 * The remaining 17 references in this article are from secondary sources

In summary

Perhaps the intro paragraph could be reworked and perhaps a discussion should be had around removing any information that is sourced solely by those two aforementioned primary sources. I'd be interested if a more experienced editor could perhaps weigh-in on the validity of those 2 sources. It would be a shame to remove them entirely as they provide some fairly integral pieces to Tejaratchi's history. --Marchije•speak/peek 22:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * why are you defending this awful man. -- virgil texas "what you need when you need it"Virgil texas (talk) 20:13, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * If you have any references from reliable sources that we can cite with regards to his "awfulness" I can certainly help you add those to the article — keeping in mind that this information should not contravene Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. Cheers! --Marchije•speak/peek 20:54, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

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