Talk:Sears/Archive 1

Legal issues?
The reference to the company having trouble with "a strong legal basis for it's actions", needs citation. Does Sears have more lawsuits against it than other comparable companies? If so, please provide citation...jme66.72.215.225
 * I have to wonder if this article is being whitewashed by Sears employees.  Sears has a terrible reputation these days, having been busted  in several states for auto repair  scams, for robbing the inventor of the push-button socket wrench, for disobeying bankruptcy court orders, and many, many other illegal activities.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.157.14 (talk) 03:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Sears logo
Regarding Image:1970 SimpsonsSears Logo.gif: Noticing that the edits about the dates of the logo were reverted, I'd like to know - what were the dates that this logo was used? I remember seeing this logo in use up through the 1990's, but somehow I doubt it was the original logo. The "1970" gets some credibility due to its use in the title, but I couldn't find a good source for it when I googled it. Anyone? SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:07, 30 May 2006 (UTC) I couldn't see the logo that the above user was talking about, but I'm wondering about the cursive Sears logo. Like the one that used in the Downtown Miami store, (which closed in 1983 and is now the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts). —Preceding unsigned comment added by EnriqueH (talk • contribs) 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposal to move article to Sears
Please express your opinions here: 03:49, 23 June 2006 (UTC) Alexzero77
 * Oppose Move Main article should be official name. Redirect works just fine. Captaintruth 14:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose Move same reasoning. Vaoverland 21:21, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose move per Captaintruth. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose move per above. --Caldorwards4 03:22, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
 * But guys, you don't see Macy's under the article "R.H. Macy & Company."
 * But do you ever see the name "R.H. Macy & Company" used anymore? By contrast, you still see "Sears, Roebuck and Company" tossed around in the modern day.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Result:no move
I think is clear, consensus against moving. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 22:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Image request
The old Sears factory in Chicago was one of the logistical wonders of its time. Can someone get a photo of it for the article? Gazpacho 21:50, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Sears in WWII
Wasn't there a great photo of some bigwig at Sears being carried out his office by two American soldiers in the early days of WWII? Why? Paul, in Saudi 14:47, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

How big is the biggest Sears?
And where is it located?--BoricuaPR 20:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC) Their largest store in the United States is at Woodfield Mall in Schaumburg, Illinois, a suburb of Chicago. It has 416,000 square feet of retail space. The largest Sears store in the world, operated by Sears Canada, is 817,850 square feet, in the Toronto Eaton Centre. I do not know where they confirm this - Woodfield is a large Sears - stores there tend to have the highest sales. Does any one have a source for the statement from the main page??? Sears once claimed title "World's Largest Store", but that was largest retailer at that time through most of the 20th century until passed by Kmart (short time), and since by Wal-mart. kidsheaven 02:06, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Brand Central/HomeLife/etc.
Could someone please add some information to the listings for Sears Brand Central, HomeLife, etc.? I admit I kinda did a rush job on those sections (which were originally on Sears Holdings; thanks to Caldorwards4 for moving them here.) TenPoundHammer 17:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC) HomeLife furniture had many locations, I thought they were sold to another company. Which led to odd situation of large parts of Sears stores being owned by another retailer (or leased). Freestanding locations I know of changed to other companies John M. Smith Chicago suburb of Oak Brook one example. Another Westfield Fox Valley is vacant part of store or storage now.???kidsheaven 02:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Sears competition
With Federated merging the MayCo stores into Macy's, Sears and Macy's are no longer different. Macy's has opened up as just another department store, therefore the section stating Sears competes below Macy's is incorrect and needs to be rewritten or removed. --Write On 1983 02:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC) Actually, I have a problem with this statement "The company competes on an average price level on par with J.C. Penney and Kohl's. Sears has also recently rivaled with Belk, Dillard's, and Macy's." I've never heard of Sears being compared to Dillard's, and as far as prices go, Sears is frequently below JCPenny and Kohls, which are in turn below Belk, etc. Could we get a source from say a trade mag or equiv? I'll look around to try and find something more authoritative.Mbisanz 16:52, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:1970 SimpsonsSears Logo.gif
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Fair use rationale for Image:SearslogoLARGE.PNG
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Hometown
"Hometown" is mentioned twice without defining what is meant. (I came here to find out after not seeing a description of "Sears Hometown" on the Sears website.) Is it similar to what used to be called a Sears Agency? Jim 23:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Spyware scandal expansion
Here is the blog post that kicked things off: http://community.ca.com/blogs/securityadvisor/archive/2007/12/20/sears-com-join-the-community-get-spyware.aspx Please paraphrase and incorporate the material in the section titled "A Significant Threat to Privacy" in this blog post. This would be a computer spy's wet dream except that it does not incorporate a rootkit AFIK. Jesse Viviano (talk) 02:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I would like to do it, but I am at a loss of words right now and too shocked by the enormity of this spyware to figure out how to paraphrase this at this moment. Jesse Viviano (talk) 02:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Internet
The article mentions "These stores were closed in 1993 when Sears closed its catalog business." For me, this is ironic...Another Wikipedia article indicates that the Internet (electronic catalog) marketplace had already begun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-commerce#Timeline However, I don't know if irony has a place in wikipedia. But I do think Sears' (re)entry into the "catalog" business (on the world wide web) should be mentioned beyond just the discussion about Spyware.)   Pachai (talk) 14:25, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Sears UK
Was there ever any link between Sears, Roebuck and Company and the former British retail group Sears which owned Selfridges, Lewis's (Not John Lewis), The British Shoe Corporation and many other high street names and was split up in the early 1990s? Penrithguy (talk) 16:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

File:Sears store.jpg
I'm fairly certain that is not the Sears at Northgate Mall in Hixson, TN.Light Ichigo (talk) 22:38, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was support for move to Sears as the common name. I have also done a history swap as the preexisting title Sears and its talk page had non-trivial edit histories.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:19, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Requested move
Sears, Roebuck and Company → Sears, Roebuck and Co. &mdash; (no reason given) —Preceding unsigned comment added by AZ'sReincarnation (talk • contribs) 01:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Unabbreviated name is clearer and just as widely used. Suggest it's used in the article text also. Aubergine (talk) 04:04, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Conditional support to simply "Sears", per WP:COMMONNAME. The company is far more often referred to as "Sears", which already redirects here. &mdash; \`C RAZY `( lN )`S ANE `/ (talk • contribs) 06:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd support Sears. Incidentally, conditional on what? Aubergine (talk) 20:16, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Conditional in that I would support a move to "Sears", not to the originally requested "Sears, Roebuck and Co.". &mdash; \`C RAZY `( lN )`S ANE `/ (talk &bull; contribs) 21:10, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Closed seemingly ''tendentious request opened after recent rename. — V = I * R  (talk) 22:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Sears → Sears, Roebuck and Co. — "The "Sears" you see in advertisements and on storefronts is actually the company logo, not the official name. The official company name, which dates back to 1893, is Sears, Roebuck and Co. – with "and" spelled out and "company" abbreviated" Quoting the Sears Archives at http://www.searsarchives.com/history/questions/officialname.htm All other Encylopedias I have seen also refer to it as Sears, Roebuck and Co. and I bet if you emailed the company and asked them for their input they would probably want it listed as Sears, Roebuck and Co. This article is about the company, not just the store, and therefore should be addressed correctly. Alieder54656 (talk) 07:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Survey

 * Oppose, this was just discussed. Please see the section immediately above this one. &mdash; CIS (talk | stalk) 08:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The common name is just "Sears". See Official names. Jafeluv (talk) 09:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:


 * Consensus can change. However, Reopening discussions which have so recently closed can easily be regarded as Disruptive editing. With that in mind, I'm going to archive this request. (Incidentally, WP:COMMONNAME 'clearly applies in this case). — V = I * R  (talk) 22:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Current Sears logo 2009
The logo being used by Sears on current mall directories, buildings, and correspondence is the Sears logo without the red arc or the "Life. Well Spent." Tagline. The logo with the Tagline is used only on marketing applications, such as advertising, websites, and point-of-sale. Wikipedia is not marketing Sears, so the logo without the Tagline should be used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonesdr77 (talk • contribs) 11:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

For more uses of the logo see: aboutsears.com. A website maintained by Sears Holdings.

Sears Logo
The current Sears logo does not include the red arc. The corporate website, Citi SearsCard website, and Sears website do not include the red arc. The red arc was discontinued in 2007.--Jonesdr77 (talk) 08:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Merge
Suggesting merging Sears Hometown Stores into Sears. I don't envision the former article getting much bigger than it currently is, and would make a nice section in the latter. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:53, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Support: Makes sense to me. – ukexpat (talk) 03:15, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Would it be possible to keep it standalone? There is much more information about Sears Hometown Stores which sets it apart from Sears. Shaunak Shaunakhdave (talk) 18:49, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

less than 50 stores in Mexico, 300 or more in Canada
to put things in perspective the market cap of sears holdings is less than 10 billion dollars and the market cap of sears Canada is 2.6 billion dollars. the article doesn't let people know how dominant a presence it is in Canada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grmike (talk • contribs) 08:38, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Rewards Point Conversion Error/Clarification Needed
Someone please clarify the rewards point conversion.

One cent on the dollar per point.... and 22,000 points does not multiply out to $22.00

Is it a typo of the 22,000 point value? A mis-statement of the points-per-penny? A multiplication error?

E caroline (talk) 11:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

AIDS and misogyny in the picture (change it please)
The catalog scan picture reads "AIDS that every woman appreciates". Of course this is meant as "kitchen aids" but still. This gives me an uneasy feeling. Today, AIDS stands for a deadly sexual disease. Clearly not "every woman appreciates"! Couldn't we replace the picture with a more neutral one? Besides, it seems not gender-neutral to me. Why does only a woman appreciate help in the household? Why not men, too? Pleace change the picture. 93.219.173.174 (talk) 06:20, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Respectfully, are you serious? The picture is a historical artifact.  In 1918, AIDS didn't exist.  By your logic, an article on slavery couldn't show an illustration of a black man in chains because that would be racist.  I'm sorry about your uneasy feeling.  Perhaps you should take a laxative. Gtwfan52 (talk) 06:29, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Clarification of term used
What is a "cube jeweler"? This term is used in the first paragraph of the "Mail order catalog" section. I have not been able to find the definition anywhere. Regards, Oldfarm (talk) 23:31, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

A retailer, not a WWE wrestler
Why the drama in the article?
 * "its main rivals are JCPenney, Belk and Macy's. Montgomery Ward was a former rival until 2000, when it met its brutal demise." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.47.30.187 (talk) 16:12, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

I have tried to remove it but, when I edit the page, the text is not there. Why is that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.20.75.99 (talk) 22:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It's because I reverted the edit that added that information after it was made. It seems like you're looking at an old revision of the page rather than the current one. Lugia2453 (talk) 22:25, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

need to split sears into two
sears hometown and outlet is a different company. it was spun off http://www.shos.com/investors.htm, its no longer part of sears holding172.248.21.53 (talk) 09:07, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Sears Towers
No mention on Sears Towers - America's tallest building built by Sears ?

First logo?
Is there some subtlety to the definition of logo of which I'm not aware? The 1966 logo shown can't possibly be the first that Sears used; I distinctly remember "Sears" (possibly "and Roebuck") in white letters on a red circle, dating from the late 1950s and early 60s. And since the company is so old, I doubt that even that was the first version. JustinTime55 (talk)

Sears to close flagship Loop location in April
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-sears-close-loop-flagship-20140121,0,6152367.story — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.156.231.63 (talk) 14:51, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Who purchased who?
This Sears page states they purchased Kmart in 2005 however the pages for Kmart & Sears Holdings state Kmart purchased Sears but took its name for the parent company. Which is correct? Greenoaks (talk) 11:45, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Kmart bought sears. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.18.191.174 (talk • contribs) 12:37, December 23, 2015 (UTC)

Catalog
The catalog should have its own article. The current one at Wish Book is ok but should be expanded with a brief included here and a Main Article link under the subhead. GigglesnortHotel (talk) 17:49, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

What does "5-star" mean?
The intro sentence uses the term "5-star", which is not clarified in the remainder of the article. Is there any reference for a specific relevant definition of this term? Sounds like a Weasel_word to me. Suggesting the term be marked for lack of citation or removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baxrob (talk • contribs) 04:36, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Sears. How many locations?
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Contradiction here. Just how many locations are there? 676 or 596? 2602:306:3653:8440:CC50:3B5B:B54D:5D42 (talk) 16:19, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

New logo in 2008?
Sadly, yes. Sears' new logo didn't debut in 2010, but it did debut in 2008. --67.226.16.44 (talk) 16:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)