Talk:Sechele I

Sechele I
Hi, can we move this article from Setshele I to Sechele I? Almost every single source I've read list him under that name, which seems to be the standard in English:
 * Encyclopaedia Britannica
 * Dictionary of African Historical Biography
 * Notes on the early history of the Kwena (Bakwena-bagaSechele)
 * BBC Magazine

And, as far as I can tell, every reference used in the article but one.

Cheers, - Xocoyotzin (talk) 21:29, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree, but as it's currently up for DYK, can we leave it until that process is through. There is a Redirect on "Sechele">


 * Amandajm (talk) 00:12, 22 March 2013 (UTC)


 * No, that's stupid. It ought to be done now. I'm just a bit nervous about how to manage it, given that it is up for DYK! Amandajm (talk) 00:40, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

"Slaves"
When someone writes the politically charged words "a group of Bahurutshe people who were slaves of the Boers escaped and fled to the Kwêna for protection", then they need to bring evidence. If the London Missionary Society was the source of that statement, then reveal it. The London Missionary Society of Britain used that charge over and over and over, but when the British annexed the old South African Republic in 1877, they could not find a single slave to free. The historian Theal also comments on that. As far back as the Black Circuit Court debacle of the early 1800s the judges lambasted that particular organisation for its lying. The hatred of the Society for the Boers was legendary and one can find it all over their writings. That accusation was repeatedly abused by the British Colonial Office as a pretext to extend their territory by force. They used it to take Natal, they used it again to take Griekwaland West, and kept up that accusation as cloak for their territorial intentions.

So, bring evidence or change the words. They detract from the article. Cfogge (talk) 16:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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