Talk:Secret detention centers of SBU

Removal of the word "alleged" before the "Russia-backed separatists" part
So, there's an ongoing edit-warring regarding the issue described in the topic heading, and I'm forced to discuss the reasoning that's already been discussed on a talk page of another article. Russian backing of separatists on the east of Ukraine has been also confirmed by multiple reliable sources in the relevant article, and in the source added to the current article by me (and reverted again by a disruptive editor). So what is the reasoning for calling Russia-backed separatists "alleged"?--Piramidion 14:28, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Here's an abstract of a consensus lead section of the Russian military intervention in Ukraine article:

--Piramidion 14:32, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Why dont you mention that the edit warring was initiated by you without even try to use the discussion page? FYI I've already made my point clear in the comment section, the sources have nothing to do with the topic of the article. How many times you gonna come back here with the same invalid arguments and the same irrelevant links? Finally I can recommend you to read the existing version of the text, cause the preliminary section reflects the article's main point. This is exactly what is expected to be in the abstract. --99.229.46.16 (talk) 17:42, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I guess I'll have to ask again: what is your reasoning to insist on keeping the word "alleged" in that sentence?--Piramidion 17:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I've read the Amnesty International report and found it strange that this article doesn't have a single mention of similar "detention centers" on the separatists' side. As for the sentence in question, it could be rephrased as "...to incarcerate civilians suspected of involvement with or supporting Russia-backed separatists", because that's what is stated in that report, literally.--Piramidion 18:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Why can't the article just say "pro-Russian separatists"? · • SUM1 • ·    (talk) 05:33, 27 March 2020 (UTC)