Talk:Section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867/GA1

Good Article review
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Reviewer: MaxnaCarta (talk · contribs) 00:07, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
 * b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a. (reference section):
 * b. (citations to reliable sources):
 * c. (OR):
 * d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a. (major aspects):
 * b. (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
 * b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/fail:
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a. (major aspects):
 * b. (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
 * b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/fail:
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
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 * b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
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Initial feedback
Please action the following issues as a priority to meet criteria 2b.
 * Citation 1: The text states, "The Constitution Act, 1867, is part of the Constitution of Canada and thus part of the supreme law of Canada." However, the source—which also happens to be a primary source—does not support this. I believe what you have written is accurate. I do not mind terribly that a primary source is used here; however, I'd prefer you to find a secondary source (such as a book) to support the fact that the Constitution Act is part of Canada's constitution and part of the supreme law.
 * Citation 4: Please include the page number. I'd also like to see a secondary source for this. You can leave the primary one in, but please find a secondary source.
 * Citation 5: As above.
 * Citation 6: As above, however, this one is a must for finding a secondary source. Your sentence is factually correct. I know that as a lawyer. However, to meet GA criteria, we need a secondary source, as this is interpretative.
 * Citation 8: Another primary source, please find a secondary source.
 * Citation's 10/11: As above.

- Please see above. After a quick scan, I do not foresee any major issues, provided the above is addressed. Please try your best to find some secondary sources for these and let me know what you come up with. This is the only criteria I immediately see that the article does not yet meet. If these are fixed, this should be a simple review.

Thanks MC — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:22, 3 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi MaxnaCarta, thanks for the comments. Please see my comments below:


 * Citation 1: I've expanded the cite to broaden it to all of s. 52 and the pinpoint in the Schedule.  I can provide a secondary source, but not for a few days.  As luck would have it, yesterday was Canada Day, which commemorates the passage of the Constitution Act, 1867, and we have a long weekend.  When I'm back in the office mid-week, I can provide a secondary source.
 * Citation 4: Page number to what? Will be able to provide a secondary source.
 * Citation 5: Ditto.
 * Citation 6: Ditto.
 * Citation 8: Added quotation from Lucas, the editor of the Durham Report 3 volume set, summarising Durham's position, later cited in detail in the "Purpose & Interpretation" section.
 * Citations 10 & 11: Not sure I understand what you're asking for here?


 * Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:42, 3 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've addressed most of your comments. Please take a look.  Some of the added links are available online, but a couple were to hard copy books.  Still not sure what you are asking for with regards to cite 4 (now cite 6), or cites 10 & 11 (now cites 17 & 18)?  Please take a look at it all.  Thanks again for your comments.  I think the additional cites improve the article;  appreciated. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:52, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Cheers @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz. I’d only done a quick initial scan so don’t worry too much. I’m a fairly lenient reviewer, we are after a good article and not perfect so provided it meets the core criteria we ought to be good to go. I’ll review today and let you know any issues. Cheers — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:55, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz apologies for delay. Will be reviewing today. — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I've been thinking of cutting out some of the early English stuff. The more I think I about it, I think it's a bit top-heavy.  Could start that section instead with the current sentence "Section 54 has its origins...", then cut out the next three sentences, then continue with "After the English Civil War..."  Would take out the picture of Chas I as well.  Thoughts? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:33, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, but these changes do not appear a barrier to passing. — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz I am satisfied with the sources at this time. I have made some copyedits and the copyvio looks good. As a result, I am passing this. Good work and I very much appreciate the patience while I took much longer than normal to review. I have had many distractions at present preventing me from being more timely, however I needed to properly review during what little spare time I had and you have been most cordial and not pushed me at all, so that is appreciated and noted. now, there are no barriers to passing the basic GA criteria however some general feedback to improve this article:
 * Could be more digestible. Sufficiently broad and clearly explained to pass GA. However if you want to one day go FA this needs more deeper explanation of terminology such as House of Commons. What is that? I know because I am from a common law system. However someone from the US may not realise it is akin to their House of Reps. Just an example of how to expand.
 * Article is succinct, but could be longer while still being relevant to broaden the discussion of content.
 * Clearly written and properly so, but not quite at the high professional standard for FA. Please download Grammarly or some other tool and have a go at seeing what suggestions for writing in active voice it makes etc.
 * Cheer, MC — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:03, 30 July 2023 (UTC)