Talk:Seddon Atkinson

Article split needed...
There's an awful lot missing from this article, but it should be aiming towards a three-way split, with Seddon and Atkinson having their own articles, describing their own products and history, and then this article picking-up from the point at which the companies merged. The history can be compartmentalised accordingly.

It seems faintly absurd to me that the article is tagged as a 'steam...manufacturer' because it is this page which details Atkinsons. Also, apart from the coverage of Atkinson's steam wagons, there is scant coverage of the other (diesel) products from any period.

''Please don't apply a sofixit my way, as I do not have the information (nor the time) to follow this through. I am providing an opinion to assist future editors progress this article.'' EdJogg (talk) 12:49, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

One gets the impression that whoever wrote the Atkinson bit was more-or-less basing the narrative on heresay. Where are the references and citations? I have many, but I hesitate to jump in. Some people are not so shy, I have noticed. Weiterbewegung (talk) 20:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Links dead
Sadly, the link to http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clowesjw/Sed_Atki.htm does not work any longer. Can anyone repair or remove it? Mark in wiki (talk) 19:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)


 * That link was deleted today. It is mentioned on other forums too.
 * The link to the Iveco page was also removed as 'dead'. (WP Policy is to mark such links as, not delete them, although in External Links sections, official guidance is for their deletion. (Personally I think this risks losing 'potential references'). I have since discovered it at the Wayback machine: http://web.archive.org/web/20080610075709/http://www.iveco.com/uk/products/pages/seddon+atkinson+home+page.aspx (from Jun 2008), although it was hardly worth the bother!
 * EdJogg (talk) 00:24, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Atkinson 'A' and other names
The header text which says that the 'Big A' replaced an earlier 'Knight of the Road'logo is incorrect: the 'Knight' theme was introduced for marketing in the late 1940s, eventually leading to model names such as 'Silver Knight', 'Black Knight' and 'Gold Knight' in 1964. The Big A continued unchanged until 'modernised' by Seddon when re-branding at the launch of the 401 model. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 240 Gardner (talk • contribs) 08:48, 20 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I have added a 'fact' tag, to highlight the problem. Hopefully someone can provide a suitable reference. -- EdJogg (talk) 14:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Copyright violation
Sadly I have had to remove a large chunk of this article because it proved to be a copyright violation from this Master's thesis.. Please do not restore it. I would encourage editors to expand the article in the needed areas, writing the information in your own words to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues. Slp1 (talk) 19:18, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Seddon History
This is copied over from the Seddon Pennine RU article and as a result is rather bus-biased at present, the citations need fettling (almost all from GG Hillditch, A Further Look At Buses)but at least it's a start... Stephen Allcroft (talk) 10:40, 20 June 2012 (UTC)Stephen Allcroft