Talk:Sedgley

Untitled
Ongoings is not a noun. It probably isn't even a word. Perhaps "goings on" would be better for this, the "Did You Know?" section of the Parish Newsletter.

Community Spirit
"Much interest is drawn from the 'little England' attitude from locals - there are still strong rural sensibilities, as well as a lack of traditional aptitude for further or higher education. The Ellowes Hall Foundation School serves much of the population of the area for secondary education, the insular nature of the community might well explain the poor perfomance of the school in connection with the relevant affluence of the area."

What?! Much interest? Where? This is an encyclopedia - it should contain facts and references. "might well explain"? Either it does or it doesn't (it doesn't) - this isn't some kind of personal notebook. This poor performance of Ellowes Hall is probably due to poor management of the school, rather than the 'insular nature' that you suggest, but I'm merely guessing. I suggest you look up weasel words. --D.elwell 21:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

"In terms of the future, Dudley borough's growing population, as well as planned transport/light rail links to the booming Birmingham, east of the borough, will no doubt increase Sedgley's status as a commuter town, rather than an 'overgrown village'.""

This is simply not true. There are no light-rail links planned in the Sedgley area - the only light-rail link planned in the Midlands is an extension of the Midland Metro from Wednesdbury to Brierley Hill (and a small extension in Birmingham City Centre). If you know different, supply references. --D.elwell 21:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you'll find that they meant the rail links from the DUDLEY BOROUGH to Birmingham, not from SEDGLEY to Birmingham.

Steve Willis
Hi there. I'm removing the information about Steve Willis again. He isn't notable, and I'm still very suspicious that 82.37.179.220 is actually him (along with EmmaWaldren and VickyRoper). Basically for three reasons : These are obviously all circumstantial points, and the addition of spam alone is enough to keep me deleting. But I thought I'd better elaborate somewhat. Cheers, --Plumbago 13:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) The anon seems keen to add essentially promotional material about him
 * 2) The anon's IP traces back to blueyonder - the ISP for Steve Willis' website
 * 3) The anon seems keen to remove references to the Imperial units system, and one of the few weblinks on Steve Willis' site is to the UK Metric Association

Hello, My name is Emma, and I am new to this, so very sorry if I'm not doing this right, I would just like to clarify the following points. I am not connected in any way to Steve Willis, I have been studying Media at Sandwell College, and Steve Willis was mentioned as part of the course. I just thought that he is someone that we can hear on the radio and therefore takes part of the Sedgley history. The reason he was mentioned in the class was that he plays the "Angelus" before his show, which is very rare in this country. Hope I explained my point. Emma EmmaWaldren 16:16, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * OK Emma, I'll take you at your word for this. However, I'm still going to delete the text you've reinserted.  There are lots of facts true about any given town or place, but they need to be notable to merit an entry in the Wikipedia, and I'm just not convinced that Steve Willis is.  That he isn't notable enough to even have his own article suggests that mentioning him in another article is unnecessary.  As an aside, he's only one of probably a dozen or so DJs on a community radio station (that, I note, doesn't have an article on it), none of whom have an article about themselves.  That he's also not in the best timeslot (6pm, on a Sunday?) points towards other more deserving cases.  Regarding Angelus, notice that the article talks about radio stations around the world in general terms; a specific example from a local community channel in one part of the world does not need mentioning in this article.  Period.  However, all that said, it's great that you're being bold in your edits to the Wikipedia - please continue to do so, but be aware of notability issues and the appropriateness of information for different articles.  Cheers, --Plumbago 16:35, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Plumbago, thank you for your kind reply. It did leave me a little deflated as this was my first ever contribution. However, I see your point, and thank you for taking the time to educate me on how this thing works. Hope to chat with you again in the future. EmmaWaldren 18:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Not a problem. And don't let my grouching put you off editing.  There are plenty of Wikipedia guidelines to help new users such as yourself (try here for starters), but you can probably pick it up from reading articles and conforming to their style and notability criteria.  Have fun editing!  Cheers, --Plumbago 12:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Sedgley in the news
The anecdotes listed in this section seem pretty unencyclopaedic and of marginal interest or notability. Any objections to its removal? DWaterson 23:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Montys a chain???
I know the owner of Monty's and no way is it a chain of bars, he has other business`s. But on paper he doesn't even own Monty's due to past errors... ;)

Lack of References
There are no citations for any of the information in this article. I've added the template to it. I will try and find references for as much as possible but will remove anything that can't be verified in line with the requirements of WP:VERIFY. - X201 08:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I would also like to comment on the lack of references particularly with regard to this statement :"A council housing estate was built at the foot of Sedgley Beacon in the interwar years and named the Beacon Estate. It is now one of the most deprived and crime-ravaged housing estate in the Black Country." Using phrases such as "crime-ravaged" without a reference makes this sound almost like a statement of opinion. Although i do not disagree with this statement, i do not think it is appropriate. I have not deleted it now but i think it should be unless a reference is provided. 134.220.201.58 (talk) 12:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Not just that section but the article as a whole is in a very poor state, especially when compared to anything in Geography Project - Featured Articles which is the standard which all articles should aim for. - X201 (talk) 13:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Please add https://opendomesday.org/place/SO9193/sedgley/ as a Domesday reference and add links to hundred of Seisdon.98.243.51.84 (talk) 16:11, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Gornal redirected to Sedgley. Shouldn't it be Dudley?
Know this is a can of worms, but I definitely feel Gornal (all parts) is in Dudley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.212.118.3 (talk) 18:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Gornal (again)
I have created a new article entitled Gornal, West Midlands, mostly from the paragraphs formerly in this article. I felt there was enough material to justify a separate article, and coupled to that there seems to be some disagreement about whether Gornal should be counted as part of Sedgley or not: Gornal redirected to Dudley, while Upper and Lower Gornal, plus Gornalwood, redirected here. (Note that Gornal is now a disambiguation page, thanks to the existence of a Gornal in Barcelona!) --RFBailey (talk) 04:22, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I've also created a new Gospel End article. --RFBailey (talk) 04:51, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

First reference
The first reference given on the page is to a part of my personal web site, which has now moved to. I also have a page on Lower Gornal at 78.145.220.61 (talk) 18:14, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Regarding Gornal and Woodsetton in the 'Neighbourhoods' section
This seems to be a controversial topic, but I keep removing Gornal and Woodsetton from this page because this article, as far as I am aware, is on the modern-day village/town of Sedgley, not the former Sedgley Urban District of which Gornal and Woodsetton were a part, which has its own article here. Seeing as the Urban District merged into the Dudley County Borough, now the Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, I feel that it is misleading and inaccurate to be included on the contemporary Sedgley page. Both Woodsetton and Gornal have their own individual articles on Wikipedia for relevant information to be added, and any talk of them as a part of a wider area, if any, would be better suited to inclusion on either the West Midlands county or Dudley Borough pages. After all, there is a difference between the town of Dudley and the Dudley Metropolitan Borough, which people are very particular about pointing out on those articles' pages; just as there is a difference between the Sedgley settlement and the former Sedgley Urban District. --LivingInMediocrity (talk) 18:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If this is the case, then shouldn't Pensnett and Quarry Bank be removed from the Brierley Hill article, as these were historically in the Brierley Hill district but were then absorbed into an expanded Dudley borough? And could the same go for Great Bridge and Tividale on the Tipton page as these areas were in the Tipton district until being merged into an expanded West Bromwich borough (although the bulk of Tividale was played in Warley) before the 2 boroughs formed in 1966 merged to form Sandwell in 1974? Sir Stanley (talk) 19:50, 27 April 2012

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Sedgley Hall Estate
I moved onto the Sedgley Hall Estate with my family at the age of five in 1960, the Northway is mentioned on this page but Sedgley Hall Estate is not, though the mistaken mention of Sedgley Hall Park where it says there is play equipment is not actually where the old 15th century hall, demolished in 1966 stood. Sedgley Hall estate starts at Caswell Road and goes down to the Northway, when we first lived there the Northway was non existent and was all fields. The old hall actually stood at the rear of Caswell Road, right about where Ryecroft stands today, the grounds went over to the Gospel End Road and Caswell Road originally only contained twelve houses until the rest of the road was built pushing through to Gospel End Road after 1966 when the hall was demolished, and the Ryecroft and Westridge were roads built off Caswell. Christine.Hawthorne (talk) 23:26, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

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from Wolverhampton not sedgley
from Wolverhampton not sedgley 86.151.93.62 (talk) 04:47, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  06:57, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2020
Scouting in Sedgley Section

Scouting in Sedgley has a long tradition with one of the worlds oldest scout groups based in Sedgley which was founded in 1910.

1st Sedgley Scout Group As one of the oldest Groups in the country, our history dates back to 1910, just three years after Baden Powell founded the Scout Movement. We initially meet in the old parish church buildings (where Iceland now sits), Queen Victoria School, and the historic windmill on Vale Street, Ruiton, Gornal. George Cox MBE led a team to find and build our own HQ. After decades of searching and numerous site possibilities, our current location was secured. Fortunately, former 1st Sedgley Scout Frank Turner rejoined our ranks. As a building construction lecturer at Wolverhampton Technical College, he was declared our architect. George and Frank led a team that hand-built our current hall from 1974 to 1977. Three additional extensions were built in the following decades, and a fourth is currently being planned. Within one of those extensions is Turner’s Cabin, a log cabin that honours his astounding commitment to the youth of Sedgley.

George Cox continued leading the group as a leader, member of the executive committee, and honorary member until his passing. He was in effect the father of the present-day 1st Sedgley Scout Group, a caring and inspirational Scout. Alexbaugh95 (talk) 17:44, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sourcing only back the group's own website is no enough. Independent sources are needed. You should also explain why the group is notable, there were a lot of groups by 1910. Nthep (talk) 18:02, 21 December 2020 (UTC)