Talk:Seifried Estate Winery

Review
Hi @Kind kiwi, and welcome to Wikipedia! I am only a hobby editor, and I am not familiar with all the rules and regulations, but I think it should be published, and hopefully I can leave some useful tips here. This is a great first start! — 1. It is best to avoid language that sounds too much like marketing, see WP:BROCHURE. 2. With wine articles it is best to stick to objective facts and avoid recommendations, tips, lists of awards, and no matter how tempting, waxing lyrical about the lovely qualities of a particular wine or style! See WP:WINEGUIDE. 3. We could use a few more citations, and use the cite templates, e.g. for the Drinks International article. For New Zealand wine articles we can use local industry folks like Michael Cooper (publishes the annual NZ Wine Buyer's Guide), Bob Campbell MW (The Real Review), and so on, as well as searching the usual articles and wine column pieces in Stuff or The New Zealand Herald. 4. The DI reference can be re-used in the History section to back the "greatest acknowledgement" claim. 5. There's been a lovely uptick in New Zealand editor activity in recent years, and folks on the NZ noticeboard are generally quite active and helpful. 6. Nice work with the info box, that makes a big difference to the article quality too. 7. Maybe link New Zealand to the New Zealand wine article rather than New Zealand the country, which seems to be a standard practice in wine and grape articles. One day when I get around to it and I find enough interesting material and sources, I will create the Nelson (wine) article for you to link to! — Jon (talk) 04:12, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ...not that the draft suffers too much from the first two points, on second look - they're just general pointers for writing wine related articles, I guess. Cheers — Jon (talk) 04:12, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * A couple of other things - using the company's website as a reference is not very good for anything other than trivial information; it is usually better to back a claim with the same information published elsewhere - usually reported in a newspaper, book or other reference. For example, Seifried no doubt would like to claim that they have a strong reputation overseas, but rather than quote their own website, which appears self-promotional, we can use The World Atlas of Wine instead. — Jon (talk) 09:21, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Maybe use the infobox winery template instead of the company one? It has a few wine-specific extra things. Jon (talk) 04:49, 23 September 2021 (UTC)