Talk:Sengunthar/Archive 2

Reference about kaikolar in 1st century AD from Arikamedu
In the following snippet from Google books, we see that Kaikolar existed in 1st century AD. The weaving business must have been very important as early as 2000 years.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Q2QEAAAAYAAJ&q=kaikolar+arikamedu&dq=kaikolar+arikamedu&ei=wvDCR_ymGoSkiQHAqti0CA&pgis=1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saedirof (talk • contribs) 16:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Reference for Kaikolar Devadasis
The Erotic Sculptures of India, Y. Krishan, Artibus Asiae, Vol. 34, No. 4 (1972), pp. 331-343 provides references that describe the social status of Kaikolar women in India. The author explains how the Kaikolar Devadasi could never become a widow as she was considered to be married to the temple deity. Moreover the beads in her tali (thread worn by married Hindu women) were considered to bring good luck to women.

Youonlylivetwice (talk) 15:10, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Need to restore true spirit of wiki here
Youonlylivetwice, seems to be hell bent on vandalizing Mudaliar and Sengunthar sites. His tone and tenor of the edits as well as presenting facts twisted, alluding to derogatory remarks. I am also shocked and dismayed the obsession with which he goes on editing the page only filled with derogatory stuff. Looks like this user has been doing colossal damage to the wiki in the name of facts. I, also feel that he has personal animosity towards this community.

Senguntha Prabantha Thiratu
Senguntha Prabantha Thiratu  is here, now, many can access it. We can refer it here in the WIKI Redlance (talk) 06:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Reference on Mudali title
This is a better reference and dates back to 14th century

Science and Empire: Essays in Indian Context, 1700-1947

Craft and Social Identity —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redlance (talk • contribs) 06:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup and suggestions for improvement
I have cleaned up the formatting of this article, in part, to help make it easier to understand and edit. The table of contents is excessive. Can some of the numerous sub headings be removed, and the content formatted into paragraphs of three to five sentences (approximately), with each paragraph organized around a particular thought? Jehochman Talk 13:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Want feedback regarding my edits
I have the combined the short paras to make it finer in look Sureshmaran (talk) 15:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Sekkizhar
Pls cite sources to show Sekkizhar is Kaikolar or Sengunthar or some form like Kaikolan, Kaikola etc. ShivNarayanan (talk) 00:35, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Kambar
Sigh, Kambar not from this community.


 * Tamil Social History By N. Subrahmanian, Shu Hikosaka, G. John Samuel, P.Thiagarajan, Institute of Asian Studies (Madras, India)
 * India's Communities by Kumar Suresh Singh, Anthropological Survey of India - Ethnology - 1992 - 4146

ShivNarayanan (talk) 00:24, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Kirupananda Variar
Pls cite some some source as he is from veera saiva community. Check official site. ShivNarayanan (talk) 00:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Source for the noted people from the caste-Sengunthar http://www.sengunthamithiran.com/people.htmSureshmaran (talk) 11:27, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The above site is not a reference. A quick scan of http://www.sengunthamithiran.com/ABOUTUS.HTM reveals that the editor of the site has only copied the contents from wikipedia. So it cannot be cited as a reference in wikipedia. But the official site of swamigal, http://variyarswamigal.com/ is more authentic. He belongs to lingayat also called as veera saiva caste. Cheers. ShivNarayanan (talk) 00:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Poor formating
Somebody should move in to improve the format of this article; especially the paragraphs and sections.  AshLey  Msg 06:23, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Incomplete citations
This article is rife with incomplete citations, poor citations, poor phrasing, dreadful organisation, clear attempts to puff up the Sengunthar community etc. I tagged some issues and done some cleaning. What I am not doing is tagging every problematic cite - I'll give it a few weeks for the major contributors to fix the obvious issues (no page numbers, no publication details etc) and then will be removing every statement that is supported by an incomplete citation. That is, citations that only give an author's name and book title or similar. This mess has gone on for long enough. - Sitush (talk) 00:31, 9 March 2013 (UTC)