Talk:Separate Reality (climb)/Archive 1

Translated from German
Freely translated from the German de:Separate Reality. 84user (talk) 00:42, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Shamanism

 * Many early edits of page Separate Reality (climbing route) are about shamanism and should be under Separate reality (shamanism), but a clean history-split was impossible because many of those edits had a section about shamanism AND a section about the climbing route. I have started a new page Separate reality (shamanism) with text taken from the old edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Separate_Reality_(climbing_route)&action=edit&oldid=10168919 (edit of page Separate Reality (climbing route) by User:Twyforddocks at 02:36, 10 February 2005). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:30, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Fourth successful solo attempt
by Alex Honnold June 2010. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thassi10 (talk • contribs) 00:02, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Reliable sources
Hi, I'd like to work on expanding this stub and I'm starting with a review of the current sources as well as tracking down and adding some more reliable sources. My assessment of current sources: I will start by removing the clearly unreliable sources, and welcome comments or guidance on what to do with the others. Thanks! GuineaPigC77 ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 23:45, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * www.rockclimbing.com My browser warns me about this page, so I haven't clicked it.
 * www.climbingnarc.com Unreliable. Appears to be a blog without any editorial oversight.
 * video from TVMountain. I don't understand French so I can't comment.
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmRsGqII01Q appears to be an excerpt from a documentary about Wolfgang Güllich, although I don't understand German so it's hard to tell.
 * www.planetmountain. Reliable. This is an interview with one of the climbers who climbed Separate Reality published by a website that has editorial oversight.
 * www.redbull.com. Reliable for this purpose. The claim in the article is "This climb has made it to Red Bull's 10 Most Legendary Free Solo Climbs of all time". I'm not sure whether this is relevant or helps establish notability, but it seems the claim can be verified.


 * Some updates on sources.
 * I've removed climbingnarc.com and the claims it purported to support.
 * I had a brief discussion about Planetmountain.com at RSN, and it seems this source is okay for the Heinz Zak interview and possibly other claims. The editor who answered my query reminded me to apply due weight to these interviews and claims.
 * The YouTube video of Güllich's climb, which is just a bare url, can be swapped out for a reliable source for the same video here: and this source also provides some context.
 * GuineaPigC77 ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 20:33, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I remove the Rockclimbing.com one as it's clearly a link to a forum post and therefore not a reliable source. Canterbury Tail talk 23:35, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I've got another source to add to the discussion: this interview (plus more content about Separate Reality) appears in ukclimbing.com. They commission articles from authors "both professional and amateur." WP:RS? GuineaPigC77  ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 00:20, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
 * PlanetMountain is a reasonable source for climbing; some of the best are Climbing (magazine), Rock & Ice, and Alpinist (magazine). 78.18.250.227 (talk) 17:04, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay great, I will look at Rock & Ice as well. Thanks for all your updates! GuineaPigC77  ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 20:38, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * My pleasure - also, should this be moved to Separate Reality (climb), per others like Silence (climb) and Action Directe (climb)? 78.18.250.227 (talk) 02:45, 7 November 2022 (UTC)