Talk:Sepulveda Boulevard

Question
When was Sepulveda Blvd Built? I see it on the 1949 map of San Fernardo Valley, but not on the 1924 map. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.255.10 (talk) 23:20, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Sepulveda longest street?
Hopefully the edits that I just made should fix some of the confusion.

For fact checking purposes: I took most of the distance information from the second link. Whoever originally stated that it was only 30 miles was just guessing. Compaire "SameerKhan" edit to the edit before his/hers (with his comments taken into account). I wish I knew the distance of the second section (the one North of Rinaldi) so we could have a complete distance calculated. I live of of Sepulveda so I will probably drive the entire distance when I return home (Dec. 10th). --BMan1113VR 05:21, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

---I found an LA Times article referencing work on the tunnel began in 1929. http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/370962372.html?dids=370962372:370962372&FMT=CITE&FMTS=CITE:AI&type=historic&date=Sep+15,+1929&author=&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=BORE+INTO+MOUNTAIN+UNDER+WAY&pqatl=google —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.255.10 (talk) 23:26, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm confused. It said Sepulveda went to San Pedro, but the only one that does was said to be unrelated to the other sepulveda.

In my opinion, These three Sepulveda Blvd.s are one-in-the-same. On the northern end, there is now no Sepulveda Blvd. between Roxford and Rinaldi probably due to the contruction of the Interstates 5 and 405 which follow Sepulveda's "route". On the southern end, it is possible that the name Sepulveda was changed by the cities of Hermosa Beach and Redondo Beach to Pacific Coast Hwy and Camino Real. If not for the name change, the southern stretch of Sepulveda would be contiguous with the main (central) portion.

--BrianSTL 21:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

The Guiness Book of World Records used to describe this as the longest street in the world. If they still do that'd be worth mentioning. -Will Beback 20:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The Los Angeles Times just reported that it's the longest in the city and county, though they call it just 40 miles long. -Will Beback · † · 09:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Here's a recent debunking of the "longest street in the world" claim, which appears convincing: http://la.curbed.com/archives/2006/08/worlds_longest.php . I removed the claim. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 18:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't see how Sepulveda is considered one continuous street. Although the northern section was once connected to the central section, you now have to get on a freeway to traverse the two segments. They may have the same name, but they're no longer the same roadway.


 * As to the central and southern section, it's not just a name change. Sepulveda changes names to PCH at Artesia Blvd.; you then go 2.5 miles on PCH, turn left at Torrance Blvd. (leaving one roadway and entering another), then turn right at Camino Real (entering a third distinct roadway) and go another mile before the name changes to Sepulveda. That's a 3.5 mile distance between named segments and two changes of roadway. Again, they may have the same name, but they certainly are not the same roadway. Dtcomposer (talk) 15:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Culture
Car cruising? American Graffiti? Car hops on roller skates? Or, am I thinking of another street? DOR (HK) (talk) 01:06, 24 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I just added a "Popular Culture" section so that mention could be made that the street is referenced in the song Pico and Sepulveda. As for car cruising and roller skates, it you can find the references, add them in!  Primogen (talk) 22:40, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

State Route 7
There probably should be a mention of Sepulveda carrying a portion of State Route 7 for a chunk of the 20th Century; I'd add something myself but the only thing I have access to right now is this self-published page. Mapsax (talk) 00:50, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Southernmost Extent
There seems to be a little uncertainty as to the actual start of Sepulveda in Long Beach. The article mentions that it begins at its intersection with Willow Street and the Terminal Island Freeway (SR 103). According to street signage in place, I might beg to differ with that. Those familiar with the intersection of Middle Rd. and Willow/Sepulveda (at the entrance to the Union Pacific Intermodal Container Transfer Facility [ICTF]) know that this intersection has four large standalone street name signposts placed at each corner, designating the road running to the east from this intersection as Willow, and the road running to the west as Sepulveda. Unless the street signage is incorrect, the article should be updated to reflect this.

Pronunciation
This is going to sound somewhat humorous, but if you know LA, you know if someone is a transplant if they can't pronounce "Sepulveda". I noticed that there was not a pronunciaiton key at the start of the article. I'm thinking that this might be a good idea given the fact that many people just don't pronounce it properly. --FriendlyGuyFromCA (talk) 21:03, 25 November 2017 (UTC)


 * This might be a useful reference...


 * "Why do we pronounce our place names this way?" - Feb 23, 2021 LA Times article


 * * https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-02-23/los-angeles-why-do-we-pronounce-place-names-this-way


 * • Sbmeirow  •  Talk  • 23:59, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Sepulveda Blvd. "Overlap"
I do not see any sources saying the Sepulveda Blvd. that starts at Willow and SR 103 overlaps with SR1 as PCH to LAX as a continuation. It looks like a separate street with the same name but no real connection. If it is true historically a source will be needed to add it back. Someone in SoCal Area (talk) 00:40, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, so with some research and google maps, I learned that Sepulveda Boulevard was changed to PCH in 2018 in El Segundo, CA but still has the name in Manhattan Beach to CA 91. However, I still don't see the connection to the other street from Willow/SR 103 to before Torrance Blvd. as Camino Real. Someone in SoCal Area (talk) 19:48, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Sepulveda Boulevard begins in the south at Middle Road in Los Angeles at the border with Long Beach, its name changing from Willow Street. It then goes west through Carson and Torrance, where it becomes Camino Real, eventually merging with Torrance Boulevard before merging with SR 1 (Pacific Coast Highway) in Redondo Beach and turning north.

Artesia Boulevard Feverskunk (talk) 07:28, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

This article states that the Sepulveda Boulevard in the South Bay is connected to the rest of Sepulveda Boulevard, despite the gap in naming:

https://www.placesearth.com/roadtrip/code/sepulvd0.shtml

There is also an LA Times article that supports this, though it may be blocked by a paywall:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-feb-05-me-surround5_-story.html

The length of 42.8 miles includes the South Bay section, following the route taken in this video:

https://youtube.com/k2mlPb_cpbI Feverskunk (talk) 07:33, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I have already read those articles. The placesearth one is not a reliable source and is also self-published so it's a non-starter. The author even breaks his own rule to try to shoe-horn in the connection. It's also romanticizing the street by making one think it extends very deep into Orange County which was not originally true as Willow Street ended at Cherry Ave before being extended to connect with Katella Ave sometime in the 1960s. Historicaerials.com can confirm that. While the LA Times is a reliable source, the article doesn't really say the 2 streets are connected just that it starts again later. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if at one time these routes names Sepulveda Blvd. were once connected but there needs to be a reliable source showing this connection. I have been trying to find them but haven't found a decent one yet. This 1939 map suggests Sepulveda from Willow reaches all the way to what is now CA 1 but does not look like it curved up Camino Real and turned west on Torrance Blvd. It's looks more likely the right-of-way was demolished for housing and it's still not clear if it's a direct connection plus the map is not considered a complete RS. Again a reliable source is needed showing a once fully-connected route but it's likely in archives somewhere. So until then, there's no source with clinching evidence that these routes were connected. I am looking though. Someone in SoCal Area (talk) 21:55, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Found a source showing when north and central segments split (should be reliable)
Picture from the LA Public Library's digital collection. It notes this removed segment was at the time called the "boulevard of death" due to so many fatalities in the years leading up to the closure. I think this should be enough but would like someone to confirm first. I do not think the photo can be added to the article but using it to source with its description would finally give us this connection. Someone in SoCal Area (talk) 16:04, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I added the source. I wonder if the picture is fair use to put in the article. I'll let someone more familiar with images to decide on that. Someone in SoCal Area (talk) 20:02, 27 May 2023 (UTC)