Talk:Seras Victoria

Age
Any offical word on her age? If so it should be included here.
 * I read in several places that she's 19, but sources seem a bit unreliable. Helios 20:23, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

She's 19 years old in the Anime. She may be younger in the Manga.

Why is Mina mentioned as having 18/20 years old in this? Mina's age was never given Dracula book and she's very likely older than Lucy due to this quote from one of her letters: "It was my privilege to be your friend and guide when you came from the schoolroom to prepare for the world of life." Lucy was one of those women Mina assisted to teach etiquette and decorum. I'm taking her out and unless Stoker comes back from the death and says she's 19-20, don't add her again. 201.253.146.235 20:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Powers
Just wanted to mention that AFTER she drank the blood of Pip she became a full vampire rather then the half vampire that she was before.


 * Half vampire (although used by the author to describe Seras) is a little misleading, considering she is quite different from typical fictional half vampires, Dhampir, like Blade (From the blade movies and comics) or "D" (from Vampire Hunter D).

This section is unnecessarily long, especially considering that much of it is repetitive. Some of the information in it is purely speculative (such as the statement that Seras' "fully vampiric form might lack a human left arm." I don't believe that vampires were ever indicated to have a 'true' form in Hellsing, as evidenced by Alucard's shape shifting in later volumes. In addition to this, after being torn apart by the Captain Seras reforms with both arms.) Could someone clean this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.157.248 (talk) 05:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Difference in anime/manga colours
Id just like to see that theres agreement: In the anime Seras had blue eyes for the first episode and red eyes after she was biten, after which they were red, and her Hellsing uniform was blue. In the manga she wore a yellow/tan uniform and kept her blue eyes until she took Pip's blood, at which point her eyes went red, and she was able to change her form and turn her uniform dark red and her hair almost white. The anime colours are probably based on confusion since Kohta's work is so rarely coloured, though there is a manga volume cover with her in a yellow uniform with blue eyes, and the new statue and a cover of YKO suggest the post-transformation colours.


 * I was at the panel that featured Hirano at 2005 Anime Expo in Anahiem. I asked him about the color difference in Seras' uniform. According to Hirano, they changed Seras' uniform to blue for the anime because they were worried about how bright yellow would show up on television screens. The color wouldn't contrast properly. I don't fully understand how this could be an issue, but that's he said. I'm saying this here because I can't prove it.


 * Its prety clear at this point, now that the first two OVAs are done, that her eyes turn red when she "goes bezerk" and lets lose her violent tendancies. I would assume that they are permently red when she becomes a full vampire in volume 7 of the manga.

Pip's fate
It doesnt seem likely he could be a vampire, since he professed to sleeping with prostitutes, and not being a virgin he would turn into a ghoul, a fate she would likely wish to spare him.


 * Hellsing seems to have pretty random vampiric origins. Spoiler Warning In the latest chapter, 70 Castlevania, Alucards identity as Vlad Tepes is cemented. Considering Vlad was married and had children, it's certain that Alucard was no virgin. In my opinion, Hirano is done with Pip. He's completely dead, and exists only inside Seras (to what degree, I don't know). However, my point is that Pip's fate is really up in the air, as the virgin clause seems to have only ever applied to Seras herself. Considering the evidence from the manga, anything is possible.


 * True, Pip died before Seras fed off him anyway, bloodloss of any sort isn't going to make any difference to the fact that he's dead. I think that through blood they bind the soul to the vampire, and since Pip's soul left his body, hemay be with Seras in a spiritual sense, but that's as close as it gets. Also, Hirano stated quite plainly that he was expecting to kill Pip off sooner. So I imagine he is not going to make a reappearance.

Sam 12:06, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, i think that Pip won't come back as you said that Hirano stated that he expected to kill Pip, also Alucard became a vampire after he chose to become a monster to obtain power and escape death.User:Gamblid


 * Actually, Pip returns in chapter 86 as Seras' familiar. Rexas 11:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Alucard never states that he has children. Considering that Hirano has a version of the Dracula mythos only loosely based off of the original, this version is probably a bachelor.


 * Besides, it is possible that Seras can't create ghouls. Alucard apparently can't, so maybe the people he turns also gain that impotence.--Oreichalcos (talk) 21:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't agree that Alucard and Seras cannot produce ghouls. If Alucard wasn't able, why would he have asked Seras if she was a virgin?
 * Pip was already dead when she bit him, so it wouldn't matter anyway if he was virgin or not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jungfrau Artemis (talk • contribs) 02:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Victoria's Name
First off, let me say that it would seem so far the official Romanization of her name is "Seras Victoria", and I'm not looking to change that, but rather to give some food for thought, for as we have seen in the past, "official" does not necessarily mean "correct" ("Ling-Ling" ans "Lung-Lung", anyone?). Looking at the series, it seems more to me that "Victoria" is supposed to be her first name. Use of the term "Miss Victoria" seems to suggest this, as British customs often have young unmarried women referred to as "Miss {first name}" (take the original Dracula novel by Bram Stoker, whose characters often refer to Mina (before marriage) and Lucy as "Miss Mina" and "Miss Lucy"). This leaves a last name of "Seres/Celes/Ceras", none of which are very British, but there is one name that *is* a common British surname, and could become "Seras" for Japanese audiences... "SELLERS". Could it be maybe that her name is intended to be "Victoria Sellers"? Like I said, just some food for thought. (EmiOfBrie 18:21, 27 February 2006 (UTC))

If what you say is true, then the katakana should not be SERASU, but SERESU or even SERA-SU, but it's not so your point of view can in no way be correct. Myself, I have always preferred a version I saw in a FanSub that called her "Celas". Helios 23:13, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

This is more to do with her surname than her first, but I want to point out that while 'Victoria' is a popular first name, there are individuals with possible first names for surnames and vice-versa. I remember an ad for Parker Lewis can't lose pointed out that his name sounds like it's backwards.


 * As long as we're speculating randomly (and we are, don't kid yourselves), I might as well throw in that 'Seras' is a corruption of 'Sears,' as was pointed out to me by the spell checker in MS Word. -Litefantastic 18:46, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You might be right, but I was watching Watchdog a few weeks ago and one woman, a Spanish secretary, had the first name of Sera. Not only is Será the third person singular of ser in the future tense (Spanish for 'to be') but I have just looked it up and Sera is a Latin name meaning 'Heavenly/winged angel' the fact that Seras can use darkness to create wings might have something to do with that.
 * I think I've got it, following my note on the Spanish I remembered that Victoria comes from Victory, and I looked up 'Victoria' in a Spanish-English dictionary and 'Victoria' is Spanish for 'Victory' so her name in Spanish literally means 'You will be Victory'. Then again, it might be coincidence and I might just be rambling, I don't know.

Sam 13:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That's a pretty interesting theory. I speak spanish and that's a quite valid sentence, Serás Victoria (you will be victory). Although Serás Victoriosa (you will be victorious) would make more sense, it would be less name-like. Helios 23:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The reason it came to mind was when watching the first OVA there seemed to be a stress on the A when Seras's name was spoken, if you watch the scene just before Integra appears in Badrick it sounds clearest in Alucard's voice. Sam 11:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC) Following my last note I found a clip from the Digest for Freaks on Youtube that has what I mentioned. []

You think we should put this in the article? It seems relevent: "Seras Victoria (Lit. "You will be victory," in Spanish)"? -Litefantastic 20:08, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Never the less, Seras is a Spanish last name. My ex girlfriend had the same name and was Spanish. --Bvman 20:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point, but I was looking through the volumes before I left for uni and I noticed something. Seras has yet to technically lose a battle. The closest thing was in Badrick when Integra intervened before Anderson attempted to kill her. As for the article note, Hirano has not confirmed it, so it should be more like: 'However, it is possible that Seras's name is in fact Spanish, as Serás Victoria translates literally to 'You will be Victory'', however, I think it would be safer to double check by accessing a Spanish Translation to see if they picked that up.

Sam 21:59, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Bvman, you are right. Seras is a Spanish last name. I looked it up in an on-line phone book and it appeared 54 times. No wonder I had never heard it in my life. I also searched "Celas" and it appeared as well, though only 20 times. It also is a last name. Now, I also looked it up in an English phone book and got 0 hits, interestingly. The question would be "Where did Hirano heard this name?" And "Why did he chose it?", since it doesn't seem to be English and, to be honest, sounds a little off in this context. The same for Yumiko. The fact that she never lost a fight it's somewhat trivial. Besides, to be victorious means to actually win, and in Badrick she was rescued by Integra and Alucard, rather than winning by herself. I propose that, now that we have solved this problem, we agree that her name is ambigous and move on to diffent subjects, such as the order of her name, starting from the fact that her mother called her "Seras" which, if it really is her last name, would be a very unusual practice; even in japanese culture, which is highly polite and respectful. Helios 21:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Enigma111 changed the spelling of the name several places in the article without giving an explanation. The user changed "Seras" to "Ceras" in four places, to be specific. As far as I know, the character is almost never referred to as "Ceras". In some cases this is quite misleading, as in the excerpt: [ which seems to be tied in popularity with "Ceras" ], which is clearly not the case. As "Seras" is the official spelling, I am going to change these "Ceras"s back to "Seras", as they were. Consistency is a good thing. --creativename (talk) 08:36, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I just wanted to say, Spanish is my first language and the Spanish meaning of "Seras Victoria" is "You will be victory", like someone said up above, and not "You will be victorious". To mean "You will be victorious" her name would have to be "Seras Victoriosa" instead of "Seras Victoria". Victoria in Spanish means victory, not victorious. That, and Spanish speaking fans, of the anime at least, wouldn't have picked on that because in the Spanish dub she was refered to as Ceres Victoria.

I would maintain Seras Victoria's name is based in Latin, not Spanish, and in Latin it *does* mean "You will be victorious". It's an odd name, sure, but we're talking fantasy here. I guess they're trying to kind of invoke the Latin vulgate translation of the bible, etc. Aggiememenon (talk) 13:28, 1 June 2009 (UTC)Aggiememenon

I think it's the biggest load of bullshit ever to put in so much text about what her name COULD mean and then follow it up by saying that IT DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING, BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO MADE IT DOES NOT EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH OR SPANISH OR LATIN OR ANYTHING BUT JAPANESE. But I mean, whatever you wikipdia people think is appropriate. (though this really isn't :X) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.111.255.31 (talk) 16:44, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to pop this very old bubble by pointing out proper name identification in the Regency and Victorian eras. An unmarried, eldest/only sister had priority in naming, (unless her elder sister was nowhere nearby). If Seras had another sister that was younger, let's say named Fiona, the seniority would be thus: Miss Victoria, Miss Fiona Victoria. Only the eldest, (or the only daughter in a family), would not have her first named used, only the surname. This occurs frequently in Pride and Prejudice, as an example. I also know this firsthand from working at the Juliette Low Birthplace (Wayne-Gordon House) as an Interpretive Guide. So no, referring to Seras as "Miss Victoria" does not at all indicate that Victoria would be her first name, it indicates the opposite. I speculate that young children might say "Miss Seras," but I don't recall who was referring to unwed Mina Harker as "Miss Mina" in Dracula. If it was adults, they were committing a very noticeable social faux pas for the time period. (as a note, my last name is Lewis, so I find that discussion amusing) Kartos (talk) 01:47, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Image
I was thinking of changing her image in the article. Please give me your opinions. Helios 12:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The current picture is a little silly, I'd like to see something different used.


 * I agree. The manga picture is nice, but I'd like to see one from either the TV or the OVA.  I got three OVA pics but don't know how to add them to this page... and I'm still a bit chicken to try for fear of ruining the article. BiggKwell 02:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

What do you think of this one? I managed to erase Integra from the background. It's quite a master piece, isn't it? It took a lot of efford. Helios 20:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * That is really well done. I think it should stay, it's one of the best pictures of Seras in the manga. Schrödinger 21:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you, thank you. Yes, I'm very proud of it. Helios 11:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The picture could be a spoiler though.


 * I don't think it's very obvious... I know I wouldn't have had a clue. Thank you Helios for changing that other picture, the new one looks much better! -- itistoday (Talk) 17:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks to you, I was feeling a little low, but your comment raised my spirit and now I feel better. Thanks. It's good to have some recognition once in a while.Helios 18:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Today, I uploaded a new version with (exactly) 2 errors corrected. The changes are so small, I doubt anyone will notice them. However, I'm perfectionist, and if I find errors I feel forced to correct them in order to achieve peace of mind, even If they are small enough that no one will ever find them. Helios 20:30, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I added an image of Seras in the OVA, but if you want to change it feel free. Someone might also want to add an image of Seras in the TV series, so as to illustrate the difference in colours. --Warp L. Obscura 10:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Harkonnen image added, thanks to the OVA. --Warp L. Obscura 08:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Forgot to raise this in the previous comment... Anyone able to get a screenshot of TV series Seras for this article? --Warp L. Obscura 08:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I have a few, but I'd like suggestions (such as episode, scene). How do you like this one ? And this one ? There's also this one, but it seems less useful. If you want, you can find similar images by searching "hellsing sheet" in Yahoo image search. Helios 01:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I was considering a "top half of the body" screenshot from the anime in her Hellsing uniform, so as to establish continuity. Perhaps use the TV series version of the currently depicted scene, the one where Seras runs from the undead Hellsing troops. --Warp L. Obscura 13:09, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * There! Helios 14:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Excellent. I'm taking the liberty of flipping the order around, since the TV series came before the OVA. I hope you don't mind. --Warp L. Obscura 15:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

At the top of this article, to the right under "Seras Victoria" where it shows the 'no image available' bubble, consider this please. One may prefer this, However. --Lord Senax (talk) 03:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Loyalty
I was thinking that it is incorrect to say that she is affiliated to Hellsing. She only serves Hellsing because Alucard serves Hellsing, and she serves Alucard. 201.250.19.132 18:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC) <-- Oops. Forgot to log in. -Helios


 * No, she serves Hellsing - Sir Integral Hellsing to be specific. She takes orders from Integral through Alucard, and in the absence of Alucard (like in the recent chapter), directly from Integral herself. She is loyal to Hellsing because she respects Integral and feels that she must avenge the slaughtered Wild Geese and the citizens of London. In chapter 77, Alucard refers to Integral as "our master" while addressing Seras. She is subservient to Alucard, but only to a certain point. Since volume 8, Alucard recognizes that she has grown and matured and no longer treats her condescendingly like he did before. She's no longer under his wing. Ultimately, they both serve Integral and the Crown. Schrödinger 19:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Mmh... Ok. Helios 21:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

someone needs to fix the relationship block.its riddled with mistakes.and it mainly focus on her relationship with alucard, and most of it is wrong there is no romantic relationship there.someone please fix it. user:angel_0707 3:26, june 24, 2007 (UTC)

It has also Pip and Integra. The quotes that are used about Alucard are the exact ones from the interview and the manga.155.207.48.2 15:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Relationships
Removed that romanticism shipping fodder in her relationship with Alucard because is out of place speculation without real Manga support, as I switched the narrative by placing the events in the right order with Anderson's fight. Keep wistful thinking and personal interpretation out the wiki pages unless they have solid proof (like is the case between Pip and Seras), please and stop putting on "romanticism elements between a man and a woman" or some people will start editing Integra and Seras section about them having an affair because of "elements present in lesbian vampire fiction." I worded the entry better, it looked a disjoined mess. Wikipedia isn't a place for shipper's theories, go to livejournal, instead. 201.253.145.180 17:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Warcraft 3: Pip's soul is inside Seras and can speak to her: no longer fan speculation. 201.253.146.235 20:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Profile-Bio
WT...? I don't know who did it, but someone changed the title for this section with a motto... I changed it. 155.207.72.48 09:24, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Organizing powers and weapons
is it posssible that someone could orgenize these sections as they are on Alucards page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.244.187.222 (talk) 08:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Why Alucard made Seras a vampire
This is just mindless speculation on why Alucard chose to make Seras a vampire, mostly from observations from the manga and OVA. In the OVA, I recall that Alucard made a statement to Luke Valentine that there is no such thing as immortality. There is also the fact of Alucard's dream at the beginning of OVA II, which to me lends speculation that he had forsaw his own possible demise.

I would imagine that Alucard may have sensed something about Seras during the battle at Cheddar, possibly her latten power. Then again, these are my opinions only. If you guys have any better ideas, I would like to know. Elwin Blaine Coldiron (talk) 23:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

In the OVA Integra questions Alucard about why he turned Seras into a vampire, and Alucard comments that he has gained a sense of sentimentality from being in close contact with humans for so long. 99.99.166.179 (talk) 07:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

No speculation
Wikipedia is NOT an outlet for speculation on any details of a character's name, backstory, motivations, weapons, interpersonal relations, or anything else. All information is supposed to be validly sourced, and speculation without exceptional references is never acceptable. Please do not include any speculative material in the article. Some guy (talk) 11:11, 12 August 2011 (UTC)