Talk:Seraya Shapshal

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Why do we spell his name according to Polish rules "Szapszal"? He was not a Pole and he lived in Poland only in 1921-39. IMHO we should move it to Seraya Shapshal - transliteration of original Karaim Серая Шапшал.

Don Alessandro 05:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Firkovich
Hello Neria, Could you explain why you don't think Seraya Shapshal should be mentioned on the Firkovich page? Cheers,  Tewfik Talk 05:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Why should he???
 * They said different things!
 * They have no connection! --Neria 13:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Szapszal etc.
Indeed, Szapszal (he wrote most of his work in Polish - therefore it is definitely better to use Polish transliteration of his name instead f English "Shapshal") has nothing to do with old-fashioned Karaite traditionalist Firkovich and CANNOT be called "his philosophical disciple". I corrected most obvious mistakes in the article (Szapszal was born in Bahcesaray, not in Chufut-Kale; he has nothing to do with the other Szapszal, the author of the letter to Falashas) and added bibliography. M. Kizilov —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.110.118.197 (talk) 09:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Karaite museum in Trakai is situating in separate building but kenesa is using for religious services only and generally close for the public visits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.170.82.226 (talk) 07:01, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Dejudaization

 * "According to Roman Freund, Shapshal is the founder of the Crimean Karaite religion and historical doctrine of Dejudaization.[3]"

Would the editor who inserted this like to discuss here what is meant please? I think it needs more clarification.F.Tromble (talk) 16:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

User:Toddy1 considering your reversion of the NPOV edits concerning this I am assuming that you are the one who is pushing this.I hope you are ann editor who prefers discussion to edit wars. Please bring your sources. F.Tromble (talk) 14:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * "The turning-point of the Karaite self-perception was the beginning of the 20th c., which correlated with the leadership of S. Szapszal". See one of the resent publications regarding this issue Dovile Troskovaite."Identity in Transition: The Case of Polish Karaites in the first half of the 20th century"//University of Klaipeda Неполканов (talk) 15:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The person who inserted the wording of the sentence quoted above was User:F.Trombie.--Toddy1 (talk) 23:45, 7 February 2014 (UTC)