Talk:Serbian Radical Party/Archive 1

NPOV
This text added at the end of the page detracts from the otherwise NPOV quality of the article: --fredericknoronha 15:16, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It has been removed. // Laughing Man 17:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Infobox
Ultra left? They are totally opposite of that, I'd label them as an far right party. Sideshow Bob 17:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I know. AFAIK that's why most people (including me till 3 months ago) make that mistake. They are completely the leftist point, centering around the unemployed, the pensioners, the peasants and generally "the weak". They want to through populism one day became the sole one party that will rule Serbia and promise to return the old days, fiercely opposing Capitalism (totally Socialist). The dental care does not exist in Serbia, they wanna return it. They want to deal with barely financed Health care and promise that Universities in Serbia will also again be financed almost solely by the government. They oppose any privatization to foreigners and say that actions can be only sold to Serbs, but with more than 50% of everything owned by the state (i.e. the Serbian Radical Party) to maintain state control.


 * You can find all this in their program. --PaxEquilibrium 18:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Populism is a trait of most parties aiming to win votes, it is not necessarily linked to any ideology. By your rationale, Croatian Party of Rights is also leftist, because they advocate social and health programs, family benefits etc. We both know they aren't. The distinction between left and right is not set in stone and cannot be equally applied to all countries. Rosier (talk) 19:07, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Serbian radical party is a pro-russian party with ties to Vladimir Zhirinovsky but also to fascists like Le Pen(France).--(GriffinSB) (talk) 00:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Fascistc?!
The Serbian Radical Party is in no way fascist, nor neofascist for that part. See, you can't just make an eticett with fascist written on it, and then put it on the forehead on someone. Because the SRS has nothing in its party program that in any way can link it to a fascistic ideology. They are not opposett to democracy, and they are not for kollektivisam in any shape or form for that matter. You might as well say that de Gaulle was a fascist, because if anyone is nationalistic it sertainly doesen't mean that he is fascistic.

So untill someone comes up with anything that underlines that the SRS truely is a fascist paarty, I say we should remove it from the article, and not spread lied information om Wikipedia.

Updates are needed for the 2008 Serbian presidential elections and the issue of Kosovo's status after Feb. 17, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.109.9.199 (talk) 13:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Ultra-nationalist?
Can anyone please explain to me what ultra-nationalist means and how it is different from nationalist, other than it being propaganda used to make the party in question sound more extremist? Ultra-nationalist even links to the wikipedia page on nationalism, so what is ultra-nationalism? Thank you. --24.226.31.126 (talk) 23:02, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok since there is no response I am changing it to nationalist as it should be. --139.57.226.49 (talk) 15:08, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

i see that "nationalist" has been changed back to "ultra-nationalist" with a washington post article as a reference. can someone confirm that the article is not readable because of an advertisement blocking the right part of the text? as i am not able to see the whole text in firefox nor in chrome. AkaiHoshi (talk) 19:49, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

"Greater" Serbia?
Vojislav Seselj, modern creator of "VELIKA SRBIJA" "GREAT SERBIA" explains the concept of this ideology in his trial which can be viewed on this link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4117946890055070617# and as far as linguistics is concerned; the entire West have a common misconception as to the name of this ideology: Great Britain, in Serbian is "Velika Britanija", Great Serbia is "Velika Srbija". Using the term "Greater" is in effect propaganda implying EXPANSIVE/IMPERIALIST tendencies of the ideology. The ideology is based on informing Serbian populations of Muslim, Catholic, Protestant and Athiest religions that they are Serbs who under pressure through hundreds of years of Ottoman/Austro-Hungarian and Vatican influence have either forced or enticed them to convert religion, and then further capitalised upon that by either forcing/enticing them to identify themselves on the basis of their religion as different nationalities. Religion does not change nationality. That is the core, basic focus of the concept of "Velika Srbija". Watch that video and understand that Velika Srbija is NOT an expansive ideology, looking to "invade" or "ethnically cleanse" other nationalities but to nationaly ENLIGHTEN them and prove to those Serbs of different religions that foreigners made them falsely identify themselves. I'll be making more fixes but for the time being the name of this article and throught the article MUST be changed to Great Serbia, not "Greater" Serbia. Watch the video. Australianhistorian (talk) 19:49, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Backround
I don't see the relevance of this section with the rest of the article. There's no relation between the SRS and the People's Radical Party, besides the similar name. If there are no objections, I will remove this section. Buttons (talk) 17:00, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Far right?
Is there a reliable source for the allegation that the SRP is "far right"? It may be, I have no idea. Though it cannot be both "conservative" and "far right", as these are diametrically opposed ideologies.203.80.61.102 (talk) 04:42, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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RfC: Political position
Should the Serbian Radical Party be described as "right-wing to far-right" or "far-right"? --Vacant0 (talk) 17:32, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Sources for right-wing: 1, 2

Sources for far-right: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10


 * Right-wing to far-right. Far-right is connoted and is very infamous, it serves to discredit political opponents. "Far-right alone" should be reserved only for neofascist parties and certain small hooligan groups, except if there are no sources for the nationalist party in question. --Martopa (talk) 18:06, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * far-right, as majority of sources including Far-Right Politics in Europe, page 2. --Kathy262 (talk) 19:40, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * far-right, per reliable sources and above Rexh17 (talk) 22:24, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Right-wing to far-right : This is the party from which Aleksandar Vučić's Serbian Progressive Party emerged. It historically includes a more liberal wing.--Manodestina (talk) 17:26, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * far-right there's no way SRS is more moderate than Vox, AfD or National Rally which are all labelled just "far-right" Braganza (talk) 07:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If a moderate party splits from a certain party, then that party (after the split) is not necessarily moderate itself Braganza (talk) 07:17, 26 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Right-wing to far-right. Vox is labelled right-wing to far-right in its article, contrary to what Braganza says. For AfD, Davide King, an Italian user, makes bold changes on several articles for few days and remove the "right-wing" label (a behaviour that annoy some other users). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.170.126.117 (talk) 21:50, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * two things, Vox was far-right until 27th of September & why did you say that "You vote after the closure of the RfC (it expires on 24 October 2021)" but still votes here? Braganza (talk) 06:19, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Far-right While it is true that SNS emerged from SRS, that moderate wing is no longer part of the party, having split off. The modern SRS party is far-right, as supported by the sources. The discussion of the moderate wing that used to be part of the party should be in the article body, not in the infobox. Ezhao02 (talk) 02:40, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Ultranationalist per sources that most often describe it as ultranationalist (when they are being precise), which is one way of being far-right -- every ultranationalist party is a far-right party. It should probably only be described as ultranationalist, because describing it as "far-right ultranationalist" means using both the umbrella-term attribute and the more specific attribute at the same time, which is superfluous. Stacking the general and the specific to be more persuasive or to make sure the point will be carried across to those readers who are only familiar with the broader term is a characteristic of WP:NEWSSTYLE. — Alalch Emis (talk) 21:18, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Right-wing to far-right to reflect all points of views, even those which are in a minority, per NPOV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.118.38.117 (talk) 19:32, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

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