Talk:Serena Altschul

Birthdate
date of birth wrong -- 75.3.39.22

if the DOB is wrong, in changing it,, it is probably best to not state the incorrect DOB as well. i deleted such a mention. also, best not to state the source of the alleged true DOB in the article itself.--johno95


 * I just watched the feature on WikiPedia on the CBS News Sunday Morning. In it Serena looks at the article of herself and says "They have the wrong birtdate.".  When she looked at it on TV it said October 7th, 2006.  Thhis is the date that is listed on imdb.com and her own website  shows her birthdate as October of 1970. Unless the day of the month is wrong and its been propogated around the net from incorrect sources.  I think this is a case of her not wanting  people to know she was 36 years old even though she is.  When I heard her say it, I thought it was funny that I was more likely to believe WikiPedia's information than a news anchor on TV talking about her own self. -- Suso 15:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

if the DOB is wrong, in changing it, it is probably best to not state the incorrect DOB as well. i deleted such a mention. also, best not to state the source of the alleged true DOB in the articke itself.

please, someone, correct me if this 12/10/06 broadcast is a rerun. this program is famous for that. if you know my broadcast date is wrong, please correct it. if it is correct, please state it here. --johno95


 * I doubt the broadcast date is wrong. If you notice how many people suddenly came here to correct this article and that there was little on the talk page prior to today, its likely that if it was broadcast in the past, that there would have been discussion about it in the past. --Suso 15:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Her correct birthdate is October 13, 1970, according to a birth announcement, "Mrs. Altschul Has Child", which ran in the Oct. 25, 1970 New York Times. --Lph 16:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Could you add a quote into the "cite news" template I've added? --  Zanimum 21:02, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for putting the citation in there. I could add a quote if you want but it wouldn't add much; the announcement is rather brief and "just-the-facts". --Lph 23:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Self references
On December 10, 2006, on the weekly news magazine CBS News Sunday Morning, she reported a story on Wikipedia and compared it to other encyclopedic sources. To point to the issue of inaccuracies on this website, she looked up the entry about herself. "They spell my name right," Altschul pointed out. "But in the first line they get my birthday wrong." Multiple sources on the internet, including the Internet Movie Database, list varied dates for her birthday.

No, we don't talk about ourselves when it isn't necessary. -- Zanimum 20:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Campaign contributions
I've removed the note of campaign contributions. Please see my explanation at Talk:George_Packer. S. Ugarte 19:06, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not convinced that it should be kept out. Since it was covered in a reliable secondary source, the material seems notable to me. --Evil1987 19:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a good point, but the cited source covered Altschul's contributions merely as one entry in a very long list of contributions. The news story was interesting for MSNBC as an analysis of the aggregate contribution records of 143 journalists; the article was not about Altschul's contributions in particular. Hence my comment about Cohen's contributions, which spurred followup op-ed pieces and blog posts. I'm not aware of any secondary coverage of Altschul in particular, and her contributions, by themselves (i.e., removed from the larger context of how many journalists gave to whom) don't seem notable.


 * By way of analogy, OpenSecrets.org actually lists the contributions of, well, everyone. But my campaign contributions are not notable merely because they've been listed by a reliable third party (the FEC). I don't see the MSNBC article as being substantially more focussed on Altschul (or any other subject) in particular than OpenSecrets is; it was an analysis of the aggregate contributions of a group of journalists. S. Ugarte 20:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)