Talk:Serena Ryder

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We need to upload a newer image of Serena. Here are three of her most recent publicity shots to choose from:

  

Which one is the best for wiki? Or are there any other good publicity shots out there?

I uploaded six shots I took less than two weeks ago, but the deletionists here deleted them. There's a hard-core group of jerks working hard to destroy this site by deleting content and frustrating contributors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.113.5.127 (talk) 04:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Photos
I found some very high quality photos of Serena Ryder and her band. Be patient, and you should see them here after I get the photographer to switch licenses so I can upload them to Wikimedia Commons and place them here. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 17:00, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Just horrible
This article is just awful - it reads like some pages from "Teen Beat" or some other lame fan magazine. Serena Ryder has been around long enough now to compile a decent bio article on her without the hyperbole and grande unfounded assertions.

Example - "She hits notes in full voice, with a controlled vibrato and an incredible conception of pitch. Ryder has a good-sized arsenal of technical skills. She "delivers in a commanding, often melismatic style that enchants"[8]

I don't care how well a statement is footnoted - that is nothing but hyperbole. "Commanding often Melismatic" - says WHO? "Enchants" ?? Is she a Wizard or a forest Faerie?

She's an accomplished singer/songwriter/performer, which we can prove/deduce because she's always working -  so... what we need to know more about is her approach to all that - her gear ('rig rundown') - why she plays a cool "Flying V" guitar,  etc. .  There have been quite a number of interviews with her that have been published and could be used as sources.

Next ? Moucon (talk) 04:50, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Still horrible
Without endorsing every point made by Moucon there are several sentences in this article that purport to rely on sources which either are not given, or which although given are not available.

For example, "According to various sources, Ryder possesses a three-octave vocal range. Ryder is considered a mezzo-soprano. Her timbre has been described as slightly nasal with a raspy lower register. Ryder is often praised for her technical virtuosity. She hits notes in full voice, with a controlled vibrato and an incredible conception of pitch. Ryder has a good-sized arsenal of technical skills. She 'delivers in a commanding, often melismatic style that enchants.'"

What sources are the "various sources"? WHO is that "considers" her voice mezzo. WHO "has . . . described" her voice as nasal etc. WHO praises her virtuosity, and what is the basis for saying that the praise is "often"  And the footnoted source for the quotation comes up 404 file not found

Similarly, the second sentence in the lead graf of the Artistry and Influences purports to describe something Ryder said. What is the source for the proposition that she said this?

PaulAlanLevy (talk) 14:10, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

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