Talk:Serge Ivanoff

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This English language page is sourced from the French language version of the page for Serge Ivanoff.

l'Académie des Beaux-Arts de Saint-Pétersbourg
Long story short: for the English-language page, providing specific details about the specific academy Ivanoff actually attended, and its current name. The current day Russian Academy of Arts is a state bureaucratic entity, not itself an institute of learning. Likely this should be changed in the French language version, and on linking pages for other such artists. And, as well on the RAA page (French and English) where now there's only a short hand-waiving para at the end. But all that is a job for another day. Dushenka (talk) 07:10, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

citoyen d'honneur
Considered dubious. The French language entry is too general to be called accurate. He is certainly not an "official" Honorary Citizen of the U.S. See: Honorary Citizens of the U.S.. Perhaps it is through another route; a private bill? Without additional information perhaps the remaining "citizen" part should too be considered with care. Dushenka (talk) 07:10, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Gold medal
The absence of details (and no corroborative reference) concerning the gold medal awarded by the first French Minister of Culture, André Malraux. Which medal? Dushenka (talk) 07:10, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Gold medal context Salon des Indépendants
The mention in the French language text of that gold medal in the context of the Salon des Indépendants, is unlikely of and by itself -- there could be some relationship, but given that organization's history it is likely more tenuous than that article implies. If this can be clarified, it should be reflected in the English text. Dushenka (talk) 07:10, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Serge Ivanoff did receive, from the Societe des Artistes Francais, a "Medaille d'Or" at their Salon of 1965. I have the original certificate. It is signed by both the President of the Societe as well as by the President of the Painting Section. The award was for a painting titled, "Les Menaces". I saw it last at the Russian Embassy in Paris. There are photographs of Malraux with Serge Ivanoff in front of this painting. They may be reproduced on the website of Alexandre Barbera who is the grandson of the artist.

Ivanoff was an American Citizen. He obtained his citizenship in California. I have a copy of his passport as well as photographs of the day he obtained his citizenship. I do not have any reason to believe he was bestowed an official "honorary citizenship". (Paris04915 (talk) 02:45, 27 June 2011 (UTC))

His son's achievements
The French language text includes this:

Son petit-fils Alexandre Barberà Ivanoff, né en 1973, est également un peintre de renom.

This seems a vague third party claim. No source is given on the French-language page. As I could find no independent source, this is removed in the English translation. Note that the only source I could locate is not independent: it is the document cited in the article as presenting the artists' works (Several works of the painter.). That resource is constructed by Alex himself. Dushenka (talk) 07:10, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Books in Libraries
Artnetlibraries.net --Stoerfall (talk) 23:28, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

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