Talk:Seton Portage



I lived in Seton Portage at the time of the Oka Crisis and witnessed the events I mention in the article with respect to the blockade. Let me know if you have any questions or need more detail.

BTW: This is my former house in Seton Portage. It was right next to the train station. I also have a picture I took of the detroyed railway bridge which I may post when I get the time.

Dtaw2001 20:35, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

How many people live there?
I know of the place but I didn't know there is an actual town there. Does it have the mandatory general store/gas station/liquour store unibuilding required to make it a BC interior "town"?


 * Yes, but it's not incorporated as a town or village, and never has been. There's at least one motel, a bar-restaurant-store, another restaurant-store, a few small businesses; the gas station is on the nearby Slosh reserve.Skookum1 23:32, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

London tube
The article refers to "the names Wapping and Flushing, after the busy London Tube stations of the same name". To my knowledge there has never been a Flushing tube (Wikipedians have extensively documented Closed London Underground stations), and whist the Wapping tube station does exist, it's a quiet one, and would never have been an example of a rush of people. Furthermore, it opened in 1869, which may be too late for the period in the article. Paulbrock 01:56, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed a conundrum, as the rush when there was so much traffic was definitely in 1858, and petered out by '61......interesting. Could there have been a Flushing rail station, non-tube, ditto with Wapping?Skookum1 (talk) 18:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't know about Flushing, but Wapping hasn't had a busy rail station either. Busy docks perhaps? Paulbrock (talk) 18:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * That would have to be it; my source for this is someone immediately from the Portage/D'Arcy and also Fraser Lake, i.e. a woods person, probably never been to London, working on reportage. Docks would make more sense; both beaches were a flurry of boatbuilding and onloading/offloading just like you'd find at dockside....especially the way docks were in those days (as opposed to the container-terminal tidiness today...).  The point of the names is how busy these beaches were...and, one expects, how many bona fide Londoners there were among the crowds...Skookum1 (talk) 18:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I just had a look at hte Flushing disambiguation page and it's clear taht wherever taht stock story from the Portage came from, it lost something in translation. I thought, well, maybe Flushing NY, but in the 1850s it was nowhere; these names even appear on old maps, so there's a reason for it, whoc knows what really, unless another source turns up (and stuff about the ara crops in histories of other areas that I'vge never seen in the locally-focussed ones...)....this is a well-established myth, I'll reword it to say that, and ponder the Flushing association.  Could it be that Flushing, Cornwall was a fashionable watering-hole and Wapping was where you caught the train to it?  Just guessing?  Lond, 1850s...what else could be the connection?  It's supposed to be a London association...somewhere I've got both Edwards and Harris on TIF scans, I'll find the relevant pages and quote them here.....Skookum1 (talk) 04:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Good guess....Wapping has never had 'National Rail' services (going outside of London), I'd say best guess it used to be a busy part of the Port of London. Flushing, Cornwall would be about 5 hours by train, even now(!) so it would have to be a VERY fashionable watering-hole ;-). Paulbrock (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

pronunciation
I think I explained this in the article, but "portage" rhymes with "porridge". Not sure how to render that to IPA but maybe a soundfile might help; especially because Seton is kinda pronounced Seet'n, even See'7'n (7=glottal stop). If I make a soundfile will someone else make the IPA?Skookum1 (talk) 18:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Seton Lake Tramway
No mention of the Seton Lake Tramway in this article. Why? Peter Horn User talk 04:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Isn't it in there? Thought it was - doesn't it say something about Portage Road (the main drag today) being the same roadgrade as the mule-drawn, wooden-railed railway in question).  Its most common name is Dozier's Way, after its proprietor (who owned the license, don't know what its incorporation was named, if any -  there was no Companies Act yet in 1858-69); I've never seen "Seton Lake Tramway" used in any local or period source; where does that term come from, with caps and all?  This is an article I just haven't gotten around to expanding much, my copies of Edwards and harris (two main local histories) are on hard drives in storage (I have them digitized).Skookum1 (talk) 05:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

merge discussion
re Seton Portage railway station I see no reason at all for that to be a separate article; the station is NN an the article is UNDUE, same as with a similar situation re Lillooet railway station.Skookum1 (talk) 09:08, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh yes. Secondarywaltz (talk) 15:57, 19 January 2015 (UTC)