Talk:Settlement movement

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was no consensus on desired location. Any of the options mentioned would require a slight tweaking to the article. JPG-GR (talk) 17:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Survey

 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.


 * Support - as nominator. reason for move is the correct name is settlement house.  It would be appropriate to mention the movement in the "settlement house" article.  --Tigereyes92 (talk) 02:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose. The settlement movement, as described in the article, appears to encompass more elements than the establishment of settlement houses. According to the article, it also included the establishment of Settlement schools in Appalachia (disclaimer: I added that info to the article) and institutions called just "setlment" in Russia. It's not a Wikipedia neologism; see http://www.greenwood.com/catalog/GR0756.aspx and http://www.amazon.com/Social-Work-Order-Settlement-Industrial/dp/0252017900 for examples of use of the word "Settlement Movement." A better idea would be to create a separate article about Settlement houses, instead of redirecting that term to Settlement movement. --Orlady (talk) 16:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:

Perhaps settlement house movement? If your talking about the Jane Addams thing, I think settlement house is the name most people use--Dudeman5685 (talk) 15:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I have moved both the above discussion by Dudeman5685 and an oppose vote by Orlady from WP:RM to here... this is where they belong. Andrewa (talk) 08:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I changed the article to include more on the changing attitudes about poverty that occurred in the time period and more specifically in the US. The settlement movement did not spring out of nowhere and I believe it's important to call to attention the theories of causes of poverty to show how charities changed to compensate. Also the article says that American and English settlement houses are vastly different without explaining differences which is a gap I began to address. 12:30, 3 November 2014
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Useful sources
This link, which I've added to the 'further reading' list, could be a useful resource for fleshing out the US section of this article: The Settlement Movement 1886-1986: One Hundred  Years on  Urban Frontiers

Also, the Toynbee Hall Wikipedia article is useful for some UK history, and also lists additional countries where the movement has been active. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crinoline (talk • contribs) 10:45, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

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Geography
Social settlement Enkosi Willem (talk) 04:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

still active in Canada
https://simcoehall.com/our-fascinating-story/ - tho one sees no mention of canada, note that the settlement house there began in 1935 and is going strong. 70.49.19.67 (talk) 19:11, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Tone
I feel the the last part of the opening section could be Rewritten to be a bit more neutral in tone 65.186.177.242 (talk) 04:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Women's University Settlement and St Anne's College
Srbernadette, you have added St Anne's College, Oxford to a quote from blackfriars-settlement.org.uk as a founding college of the Women's University Settlement, do you have any sources that confirm St Anne's College was involved? blackfriars-settlement.org.uk and Women and the Anglican Church Congress 1861-1938 don't include St Anne's on their lists. In a paragraph about Lady Margaret Hall, Women Against the Vote says "Students made a major contribution to the Women's University Settlement, founded in Southwark in 1887, and ten years later the college founded its own London settlement house in nearby Lambeth." TSventon (talk) 19:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I have added failed verification tags to this article, St Anne's College, Oxford and Blackfriars Settlement. TSventon (talk) 09:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Srbernadette, please can you explain here rather than removing failed verification tags without discussion. The edit summary said "citations make it clear that T.H Green and his wife Charlotte were involved in both the establishment of the Oxford Home students society and the Blackheath Settlement". The citations show that T.H Green was an inspiration for the Blackfriars settlement, but not that he or Charlotte Green was directly involved. T.H. Green died in 1882 and the settlement was founded in 1887. TSventon (talk) 03:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Srbernadette, thank you for removing St Anne's College, Oxford from this article. However, I believe that the content at St Anne's College, Oxford is still not supported by the sources. (Also one former student getting a job is probably not important enough to justify a whole paragraph in the history section.)
 * Students of the early decades were encouraged to be involved with welfare projects by Charlotte Green [citation needed]
 * who, as Lady Secretary of the AEW, had helped to establish the Society of Oxford Home-Students. [from firstwomenatoxford]
 * Such projects included the Women's University Settlement Movement [citation needed, Women and the Anglican Church Congress mentions four colleges represented at Blackfriars, but not the Home Students or St Hugh's; St Hugh's College Report of 1912 confirms that one St Hugh's alumnus worked at Blackfriars and that Miss Rogers of the Home Students was a tutor at St Hugh's]
 * of which Charlotte's husband, T.H. Green, had been an "inspiring influence". [from The feminism of T. H. Green]
 * The movement's goal was to enable university-educated women to help the poor by living amongst them. [from Women Against the Vote] TSventon (talk) 14:39, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

star graduate
has everybody here forgotten that Burt Lancaster was a star graduate of the Settlement House program? He got such a good education in its libraries that he performed well at the tough Dewitt High School but NYU was a total bore. The gyms introduced him to acrobatics, which was his first job after he dropped out of NYU. That led him to the circus, and to his USO work during the war, and shaped his poise and movements so that he was one of the hottest stars in Hollywood when he got there. Not to mention his three films that used what he learned in the circus and his daredevil stunts in other films. 100.15.117.34 (talk) 14:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)