Talk:Seven Samurai 20XX

Scared Jewel, Steeple of Light, Child of Heaven
Unless this is a huge game with a large number of characters upon which vast amounts can be written, I suggest that the articles for Child of Heaven and Steeple of Light and the as yet unwritten Scared Jewel article be merged into the text of this article. This will keep everything about the game in one place.

The existing articles can be retained but turned into redirects to this one, so that if perchance someone types Steeple of Light they are taken to this article where they see the edifice described in the context of the game to which it belongs. I think that would be better than the current situation where the relevant articles contain lots of duplicated information from the main article. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 23:10, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Done. I misunderstood the merging qualties and information containment suitible for articles when I first arrived at wikipedia. I think its much better now.-ZeroTalk 14:09, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Comments
Please list any problems seen with the article here for clearer reference. -ZeroTalk 17:56, 24 June 2006 (UTC)


 * lead section needs copy edit to expand and remove weasel wording designs by renowned French
 * the sub section Battle maneuvers isn't encyclopedic its a how to. the rest of the Game play section is fine.
 * Plot section needs a spoiler warning read above it's just courtesy to other readers.
 * Reception is actually Critisims this section needs more cites, or less weasel wording Many complained, Others complained

then give it copy edit Gnangarra 04:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem. Thanks for the advice. I'll get to work on it now. -ZeroTalk 19:59, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Done. -ZeroTalk 22:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

GA status
I took a look at this article to see if I could pass or fail it, but it really lost me in places, which seems not to be in sync with the GA standard "(a) it has compelling prose, and is readily comprehensible to non-specialist readers". I am even a gamer, and couldn't understand the article. For example: Overall, the article has too many in-game terms without context or explanation. Also, it needs a thorough copyedit, as it has several spelling, grammar, and consistency issues (for example, you capitalize "Nitou-Ryu" in some places, and one place it is lower-case).
 * "twin-sworded fighting style" - no idea what that means, should be defined in the article or linked.
 * "... is the potential skill-related battle commands such as the Nitou-Ryu mode" - totally lost me there. What's a skill-related battle command? What is a "mode" in this context?
 * "The point of the game is to constantly keep the second sword out..." - lost again. That's the point of the whole game?  Might be better to say something like, "An important technique in the game is..."
 * "... increasing the durability of its timer with just steps, just guards and just attacks." Not sure what this means. How does a timer have durability?
 * You introduce the concepts of "just steps" etc before you actually explain them - needs to be the other way around.

I am willing to place the nom on hold for seven days, but I think if the article can't be substantially cleaned up in that time it would fail GA. -- Aguerriero  ( talk ) 19:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Aguerriero gives good advice. As an editor whom played the game regualrly, I understand how my depiction of the article conveyed a sense of being incomprehensible to those who didn't. I'll do a rewrite immediately. -ZeroTalk 19:55, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

More questions and/or comments: Per the above comment, I don't think the article is close enough to GA to justify putting it on hold, so I'm failing it. Nifboy 06:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * "The player takes the role of the Natoe," I saw this and wondered, "What is a Natoe?". I'm guessing this is a byproduct of hasty editting, and was meant to read "the samurai Natoe" or something.
 * "Nitou-Ryu mode-engaged by simultaneously pressing the L1 and R1 buttons on the PlayStation 2 controller." Please don't do this. Please please please don't do this. Kittens die every time you put instructions in a CVG Wikipedia article. Also, that would be a fragment, not a sentence.
 * Screenshots that have that stupid GameSpy tag on them should be replaced with unmarked images.
 * The plot can probably be safely converted to prose; In my experience short blurbs per chapter are evil because some chapters are vastly more important than others.
 * You know, you can directly cite the game and noone will think the lesser of it. Citing a walkthrough is both completely unneccessary and excessive.


 * Done. Hopefully, it will make it this time. -Zero 11:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Refs should be like this -

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Cheers (I don't review things twice), H ig hway Batman! 17:41, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

On Hold
This article is On Hold at WP:GAN, once you have fixed this problem, please remove the On Hold template yourself.


 * The lead image doesn't have a fair use rationale
 * You still haven't cleaned up the references

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Now Zero, ;) once you have fixed this, remove the On Hold template? 'Kay? ;P H ig hway Return to Oz... 17:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

GA Comments
I dropped by to review this article for GA and have a question. Is there a gaming equivalent of a spoiler warning template? If so, should it go in here? Otherwise, besides minor language style problems, it's good to go. --CTS Wyneken (talk) 13:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * There's recently been a giant discussion about spoilers in video game articles, and whether they have any use in an encyclopedia at all. It's ongoing at Wikipedia talk:Spoiler warning/RfC. I'll put them in for now, since it seems like the RfC is going to be canned. --Zeality 16:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've put the article on hold because the plot paragraph requires cutting down. Generally three of four paragraphs are enough to describe the game. Iola k ana |T  18:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A week was spent on hold and no response, so the article is automatically failed. Moreschi 12:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Development section
Why isn't there one? That is standard for video game articles. Who made this game? How was it made? What about sales figures? Even if the GA reviewers don't require it, the article writers should add it. Judgesurreal777 05:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)