Talk:Seyid Riza

The word Kurd is conveniently not mentioned in this article, I wonder why? Could it be that some people wouldn't want people to read that Seyid Riza was fighting for the Kurdish cause and thought of himself as a Zazaki speaking Kurd? --Bijikurdistan (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

This was the last thing Seyid Riza said before he was hanged: "For years the Turkish government has attempted to assimilate the Kurdish people and with this objective has been oppressing them, forbidding them to read newspapers and publications in the Kurdish language, persecuting those who speak their mother tongue, organising forced and systematic migrations from the fertile lands of Kurdistan to the uncultivated lands of Anatolia, where these migrants perished in large numbers....Three million Kurds live in their country and ask only to live in peace and freedom while keeping their race, language, traditions, culture and civilisation... Through my voice they ask your excellency to let the Kurdish people benefit from the high moral influence of your government and bring an end to this cruel injustice." July 30 1937.--Bijikurdistan (talk) 00:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

By the way for the people who want a source for my previous quote: A modern history of the Kurds by David McDowall page 208. --Bijikurdistan (talk) 00:25, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I fixed the article and included the sources, I also removed the picture because the link was not correct. I don't know how to link a source to books.google.com or if thats even allowed. --Bijikurdistan (talk) 01:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is. Do it like so: Title of book Once you get the hang of that, you can learn how to use citation templates. --Adoniscik(t, c) 04:27, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Kurd?
Why would he fight for a free Kurdistan if he wasnt a Kurd ?. Seyid riza never called himself a Zaza but a zazaki speaking Kurd. If he was a zaza and not a Kurd he wouldnt fight for a free Kurdish state —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrkurdistan (talk • contribs) 23:54, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

KÜRD
Seyis dışa kurd oğlu küdur Serhatwyz (talk) 15:03, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Date of surrender
While the article correctly quotes its source on the September 5 date of capture, other sources give a date a week later. Kurun, September 13, 1937, story datelined September 12:
 * Dersim mümanaatının başı Seyid Rıza dün iki arkadaşı ile Erzincan hükûmetine teslim olmuştur.
 * Dersim rebel leader Seyid Riza and two companions surrendered to Erzincan authorities yesterday

Cumhuriyet on the same date:
 * Şaki Seyid Rıza teslim oldu.
 * Rebel (or outlaw) Seyid Riza surrenders.

also gives the later date quoting an unnamed work by Ahmet Kahraman (though I could probably find the citation, I have not seen the book and won't cite it). Vox Sciurorum (talk) 17:11, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

wrong informations about Seyid Rıza
His language is Zazaki. His tribe is Şeyh Hasan(Abasan).not hesenan. Different tribes. Some Kurdish people writing wrong informations. 217.131.231.180 (talk) 09:41, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * There is a slow but long-running edit war going on over the affiliation of Riza and the Dersim rebels in general. References to reliable neutral tertiary sources – not Kurdish or Turkish – would help here.  Vox Sciurorum (talk) 15:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)