Talk:Shadow and Bone (TV series)

Info from IMDB?
Looking on IMDB recently, I noticed that directors are listed in the credits, as are several other recurring cast members who are not listed here. Is IMDB considered a reputable source for this type of information? I don't know of any other website with any where near the same amount of information in regards to TV and film productions. --SpiritedMichelle (talk) 21:13, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Per WP:IMDB, it is definitely not a reliable source because it is a user-based website. — Young Forever (talk)   21:38, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I did not know that. Thank you. --SpiritedMichelle (talk) 00:18, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I concur with User:YoungForever's interpretation/presentation of WP:IMDB. 2601:246:C700:558:843B:C0C:E272:2121 (talk) 18:42, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Today's edit
I am an experienced editor. I was referred to this site by a nephew, who expressed an interest in having a family watch party for the first episode of the series. I found the article well done, generally, with the exception that it drops in-universe terms for (what appear to be) ethnicities or people groups. These are terms that only have meaning in-universe, and so will be foreign to newcomers to the series. Hence, they must be defined in this article, with an accompanying citation giving where they are this described in a published source (so as to not violate WP:VERIFY and WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH). Note, per these policies/guidelines, it is not enough that the terms be defined elsewhere in WP; articles need to be standalone (and so Wikilink-ing the terms alone will not suffice).

As indicated in the accompanying edit summaries when placing the article tag (about the issue) and the inline tags (to a few specific examples), it would be sufficient to explain each term, in standard scholarly fashion, at point of first appearance in the article. (After finding Shu, Crow, etc., I searched page for a definition, and this is how I know they are not defined on this page.) Please, someone who is a registered editor with experience at source-based writing, add this additional information, top-to-bottom, and so move this toward being a good article that is more understandable to general audiences (and so more encyclopedic). Once significant progress is made, both the individual tags, and the article tag can be removed.

[P.S. Since its founding, WP has allowed, and indeed encouraged knowledgeable, non-logging (IP-only) editors to be involved, and this professional and former academic chooses this manner of involvement. Per WP policies, our edits should be judged on their merits, and without bias for their arising from an IP-only editor.] 2601:246:C700:558:843B:C0C:E272:2121 (talk) 18:42, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

A useful edit for a regular editor to make
The following sentence:"The universe consists of the nations of Ravka, Fjerda, Shu Han, Kerch, Novyi Zem, and the Wandering Isle, all of which adapt elements from various countries in different time periods." appears at the Characters of the Grishaverse article. While it is not a perfectly clear sentence—what is meant by "elements from various countries in different time periods" is unclear to this outsider to the Grishaverse—I believe something like it should be added early to the Shadow and Bone (TV series) article.

If I interpret the sentence correctly, something like:"The universe consists of the nations of Ravka, Fjerda, Shu Han, Kerch, Novyi Zem, and the Wandering Isle, each of which adapts elements of language, culture, and tradition from countries of the real world (elements in turn drawn from different time periods)."could be added early here, in the Premise section, and thus cover for the ambiguity that arises when each nationality later appears (otherwise unexplained).

I would add this edit, but I believe it needs a source added, and I am not savvy enough about this subject to know which to add (and haven't the time to begin a review of them all). Cheers. 2601:246:C700:558:843B:C0C:E272:2121 (talk) 20:02, 17 January 2022 (UTC)


 * There is a "Further Reading" sub-section at the end, so I don't think it needs to have an exterior citation. SpiritedMichelle (talk) 21:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)