Talk:Shaft sinking

I have a report on shaft mining. What should I Do?

-If you've got a report, and it's not copyrighted or you didn't write it, or you have obtained permission to post it here, then you may want to just add it. If it's not legal or rule abiding then it will simply be removed... information is information, people will at least learn something from it while it's there if it does get taken away. --Badharlick 00:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

--On a different note, someone ought to point out that minerals brought to the surface using a shaft are carried in a "skip", "bucket" or "kibble", and NOT a cage! --Badharlick 00:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

--added ore being transfered in skip, also that you can have a skip/cage combination--Kelapstick 22:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

--I was directed to this page from a link titled 'Alimak' on the Raise_(mining) page but there is no reference to this term on this page. Should there be? --Billtubbs (talk) 21:07, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Confusion
Is this an article about a type of mining (aka Shaft mining) or is this an article about a mining shaft. There seems to be some inconsistency about what's being discussed. Right now I don't think there's any reason to make a separate article for a mining shaft, but I think this article should be reorganized to differentiate between the two topics. --Wizard191 (talk) 14:16, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Lack of content
This page needs to be expanded, but i am far from qualified to do so. I'd sure like some more information/history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.193.127 (talk) 06:14, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Confusion
I'd like to sort this mess out but unless someone creates a seperate page for mine shaft (thing) and mine shaft sinking (activity) it's going to stay all messed up. Jack_Nolan88, March 2013

Hello this is a confusing page Swagdragon (talk) 06:08, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 9 December 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. —  Coffee  //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 22:54, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Shaft sinking → Shaft mining – This was moved in 2020 without discussion from Shaft mining with this link as a justification. It seems that there are many more places linking to Shaft mining vs. Shaft sinking and the former is the more common term. snood1205(Say Hi! (talk)) 18:16, 9 December 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Colonestarrice (talk) 23:19, 16 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Oppose the move. From a Google Books search I've found that the term shaft mining is usually used for the entire process of working a particular type of underground mine, including providing access to the site, providing machinery and buildings, etc. The term shaft sinking is used for the methods of creating the shafts used in mining. Since this article and the references used are about the methods used in creating shafts, it should keep the present title. Note that the article about drift mining, using horizontal access, is about the mines, their design, and history, not about how to build an adit. StarryGrandma (talk) 05:55, 18 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Support. "Shaft mining" is the more common term, and the article should not have been moved previously without discussion anyway. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Mining has been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE  19:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Reluctant oppose - it looks like the article is about the creation of the shaft, not mining that uses a shaft. Therefore, this is the proper title. Red   Slash  21:58, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. As StarryGrandma has already pointed out, "shaft mining" is generally used to describe the process of extracting minerals using a shaft, whereas "shaft sinking" is the process of creating the shaft itself. As this article is about shafts and their creation, the latter title is more appropriate. Pyrop  e  13:58, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Topic of the article
The article was changed to start A mine shaft is a vertical or near-vertical tunnel, "sunk" (see Shaft Sinking, below) as a means of accessing an underground ore body as part of the development of an underground mine., with the topic of the article moved to the end. I have changed it back to the original content. The article is about sinking shafts. The editor is correct however in trying to make clear the difference between what a mine shaft is and the engineering involved in creating one. That should be done without making the article topic be mine shaft. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:45, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Suggested topics to add
What started as a brief description of the general phases of a sinking project got out of hand quickly, as frustrating as it is to have a lengthy preamble defining a shaft / providing names I think it is necessary. Writing on this topic for the general public continues to be a challenge owing to the amount of jargon used and the general lack of sources / photos in the public domain. It would be great if someone could trim down the construction sequence section so it's easier on the eyeballs and maybe add a section on the planning (economics, site investigation and design) of shafts (before construction sequence) as well as some detail on the sinking cycle (with the typical equipment involved), I debated a section on the history of sinking (after Vern and Evans). Ground improvement is a whole thing on it's own, but I had planned to briefly discuss concepts of dewatering / grouting and ground freezing at the end of the article. [Jack] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.73.232.120 (talk) 12:36, 10 April 2022 (UTC)