Talk:Shannon Pot

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It is in County Cavan, and traditional source of the Shannon. The Shannon has other sources but this one you can see and even drink from. The Shannon is named after Sionnan, the granddaughter of the God of the Sea. At this spot, the old Druids had planted the Tree of Knowledge. And when Sionnan came to eat the fruit, the waters of the pool rose, dragged her in, and drowned her. It went on flowing and made the Shannon. All oul legends are the same you might say. But the Shannon Pot is there. It is strange because although quite clearly a pond, there is no water flowing in, it flows out. Furthermore, it is no still pond. Sometimes it is as turbulent as a boiling pot, sometimes it is just simmering. It is deathly quiet. And like the standing stones in Augnacliff – there is nobody there but you. Nobody to explain, to conjecture, to guess, to talk, or to ask for your money. It's not really a place to read about, it is a place to experience, and wonder that something so ancient is still there for everybody who wants to have a look. The fields are muddy. There is a sheep trodden path. Nobody cossets you either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.139.23.175 (talk) 01:27, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Is this really a turlough?
Article says the depth (9.6m) was confirmed by divers. Surely a turlough would be dry periodically so it could be easily measured in dry daylight?? Sarah777 (talk) 14:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Indeed -- this definitely isn't a turlough. The water level does vary, but the lough is always present and at least 9 m deep, and has a continuous inflow (underwater resurgence) and outflow (i.e. the river), so -- not a turlough! I will edit. Fattonyni (talk) 22:20, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * When you fix it, don't forget that Turlough has a sham reference stating the same thing. (Sham? It has no cites, just a note posturing as a ref:) Autodidactyl (talk) 05:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Coordinates
The coordinates need the following fixes: These coordinates give, with Google Maps and Live Search Maps, a place about 5 miles North of Granard, which is (very approximately) 30 mile South East of the correct location. 89.184.46.49 (talk) 19:00, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Write here
 * * Fixed(ish). At least they are now circa 12k north of Dowra, and match the Panoramio image. Autodidactyl (talk) 08:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * * Fully fixed. Autodidactyl (talk) 05:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Pigeon Pot - Shannon Source
Discussing this in the Talk section of the River Shannon article, and want to update both articles so that the correct source of the River Shannon is highlighted at the Pigeon Pot. Understanding that traditionally and mythical the Shannon Pot is considered the true source. Over the coming week I will update the Shannon Pot and River Shannon article with the updated J Gunn reference.

Sources:
 * https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/blacklion-safari-1.1797541
 * https://presspack.rte.ie/2017/07/23/new-series-creedons-shannon/
 * https://cavesofireland.wordpress.com/home/caves/pigeon-pot/
 * https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfbPB0MWIAAsINp.jpg:large [signage at the Shannon Pot]
 * The Source of the River Shannon, Ireland by Professor John Gunn - PUBLISHED IN ENVIRONMENTAL GEOLOGY, 27, 1996, pages 110-112.

I contacted Professor John Gunn - School of Geography, Earth and Environmental Sciences at the University of Birmingham to confirm his paper published in 1996 and he provided the following reference for this:
 * Gunn, J. 2001. Source of the Shannon . In : LaMoreaux, PE. & Tanner, JT. (eds.). Springs and Bottled Waters of the World. Springer-Verlag, 166-168. ISBN 3-540-61841-4. --Lukemcurley (talk) 12:51, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Why?
 * The current text states: In times of high flow it has been shown to be hydrologically linked to Badger Pot and Pigeon Pot beside Florencecourt Forest Park, Fermanagh.
 * The current source is: Elmer, Philip; et al. Springs and Bottled Waters of the World. Springer. ISBN 3-540-61841-4.
 * The same title, the same ISBN, so the same book. Unless you can update the source with the exact page numbers. The Banner talk 13:52, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Agree with you, updated the reference to include the page number and formatted it correctly.--Lukemcurley (talk) 14:22, 21 August 2017 (UTC)