Talk:Shantanu

Santanu or Shantanu?
Is the name of the focus of this article Santanu or Shantanu? If it's actually Shantanu, the page should be moved. jareha 20:32, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

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we can hear the sound of the name same as the english combination one sound "sh" in common english words "shirt/shack" etc. one sound despite some translations lack the letter h the sound is that sound. 188.64.207.62 (talk) 09:37, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

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"Santanu" is the better transcription. It seems that some people on Wikipedia are consistently favoring transcriptions in which "sh" and "s" are merged. This is contrary to Sanskrit pronunciation and writing. I favor spellings like "Shantanua", "Dasharatha", "Kaushalya", "Shiva", "Krishna" etc. which distinguish between "s", on the one hand, and the two "sh" letters, on the other. This is still imperfect as the "sh" will stand for two sounds and letters that are distinuguished in Sanskrit, but it's still better than having three letters and sounds merged into a single "s". I suspect that those who favor using only "s" and not "sh" are native speakers of Indian languages in which all three sounds/letters are merged. Inter lingua talk email 23:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with the opinion that as per the Sanskrit pronunciation and writing, this article should be named as "Shantanu" rather than "Santanu". Please let us know if there is any other opinion about this. Else (or in case no one opposes), I will move this article.Padalkar.kshitij (talk) 02:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * moved the article as per the discussion here. Padalkar.kshitij (talk) 02:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Shantanu in the Rig Veda
I was surprised to read the text that said Shantanu was mentioned in the Rig Veda. Turns out that it does, per 10.98 ("With Maruts, Vasus, or Ādityas, make thou Parjanya pour for Santanu his rain-drops."). However, what is the certainty that the Shantanu referenced in RV is the Shantanu of Hastinapura? IMO this creates significant difficulties in reconciling RV's age, because RV significantly predates the Mahabharata. RV is a world unto its own and is the first cog in the wheel of evolution of Hinduism - it affords primacy to Indra (as opposed to Vishnu/Shiva in later texts) and also primacy to river Saraswati (as opposed to Ganga, which is mentioned only once or twice in RV). The RV only mentions Vishnu twice! I don't think the Shantanu in RV is the Shantanu of Hastinapura. I'd appreciate a clarification. AreJay (talk) 22:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

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as you quoted accurately, this in rig veda is the one "the target of worship" with the other "demi-gods" listed together, therefore not the king father of the warrior bhishma, who apparently had same name and named for that one, so no influence on estimating which era. 188.64.207.62 (talk) 09:47, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

No i disagree this is definitely shantanu of Mahabharata because it also mentions devapi who is a brother of santanu in Mahabharata. Also in Mahabharata before handing his kingdom devapi and santanu did do a big yagna most likely mandala 10 was finished at that time.

Most of rig veda is not veey old than Mahabharata kings like sudas were only couple of generation older than pandavas according to genealogical list given. So yes, it is santanu father of Bhishma.

sources from text
please for the section shantanu marriage [and other details] somebody who knows which section or parva please provide the name of section and book in Mahabharata where we can read that section, to provide for people like me who do not know which section to find any story [unless it was mentioned in the section before pausha parva where the 18 books are described briefly]. 188.64.207.62 (talk) 09:47, 31 July 2021 (UTC)