Talk:Sharks (band formed 2007)

Proposed Deletion
Wikipedia has proposed that this article should be deleted because it deals with a

"Non notable start-up band. Fails WP:BAND on points 1 - 12. Sources do not comply with WP:R and are mainly blogs, non-notable websites, agent's web sites, and other self-published sources or promotion. Individual band members do not appear to have notable solo careers within WP:BAND."

In reply, I pointed out that a band which receives a 4/5 from Kerrang! magazine, which has a feature in the new RockSound magazine (issue 141, page 32), and which is going on a major European tour with The Gaslight Anthem is not exactly non-notable. What do others think? WoodyJoe (talk) 12:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The publication of whole page features in both Kerrang! and RockSound surely means that the band meet criteria 1 of WP:BAND. WoodyJoe (talk) 08:18, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

WP:BAND reqds
 * 1) Has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable.
 * KERANG: The web page only carries a video. Confirmation is required  that  this is the website of a printed magazine with  a dedicated article to Sharks.
 * ROCKSOUND: no reference
 * For the purposes of inclusion of an article in  Wikipedia, criteria for bands and musicans are not  met. This is a stqrt up  band and has not  appeared in  the UK national  charts. Press coverage is not  multiple, broad, or widespread. Please see original  rationale. --Kudpung (talk) 10:38, 14 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I have now added the references to both Kerrang and RockSound magazine in the article itself. Both magazines are amongst the best known UK music magazines and are widely available in high street newsagents.  Scans of the Kerrang feature and a feature in Fly magazine are available at http://www.bestbeforerecords.com/index.php  Info about RockSound can be found here: http://www.rocksound.tv/magazine
 * I don't have a problem with the Wikipedia Band criteria as such, but I really feel that with coverage in major UK music publications, and glowing reviews in those same publications, criteria 1 has been met. WoodyJoe (talk) 20:55, 14 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Whether this band has been the subject of (a very  few) brief articles in  nationwide music magasines, the band is a start-up  band with  no  significant  history that  satisfies Wikipedia criteria for notability  under WP:BAND. Sources do  not  create  notability, they  confirm it  if it  is already  there. Please check  again  accurately  against  all criteria 1 - 12 and ensure that  the article complies as requested. Failing  this, the article will shortly  pass to  deletion  debate for decision  by  the community. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 07:49, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I have once again looked at the criteria and am happy that the article does indeed meet at least one and maybe even two of the Wikipedia Band criteria. I also have tried to make the article informative and accurate. I have moreover looked at other English Punk Rock articles (eg. Monkeyrush), which are not threatened with immediate deletion by someone who is not even familiar with UK music publications, even though they are very poorly written compared to this article. WoodyJoe (talk) 18:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Touring Member
Rob Dempsey joined Sharks on bass as a touring member for the Warped Tour 2011. I added this information, but it was removed by an 'IP address only' contributor. I have undone that change, as no reason was given why a touring member should not be listed. WoodyJoe (talk) 19:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

punk rock?
I have removed this classification as it misleads the reader about what the band's music sounds like and replaced it with the more appropriate 'britpop'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.3.223 (talk) 19:51, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * ...Without any sources to back up that genre. The genre of punk rock is well-supported by sources in the "Description and influences" section. Changing it back. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:07, 1 April 2012 (UTC)