Talk:Shaun White/Archive 1

The future looks bright for this young Olympian
An anon added this section, it's unsourced speculation that seems entirely inappropriate. I removed it. Grand master  ka  05:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC) Shaun White started Carson OWNS  16 May 2006 (UTC) -Shaunluvr

timeline issues
the article says "White first started snowboarding at age six in 1986" but it also claims he was born in 1986. what is the deal?--Geedubber 23:49, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Biography assessment rating comment
The article may fuck off nibe improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. This page should Cite sourcesthroughout article. Withsome citations, and infobox could probably progress to B class. -- SriMesh | talk  05:37, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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Picture
article def needs a picture —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.155.96.40 (talk) 19:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 February 2010
The article says his score on the final run at the Olympics in 2010 was 49.5, but it was 48.4. I don't know how many points higher that was than the next closest competitor, but I don't think it was 7 points as I remember someone score 45 something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.216.66.43 (talk) 04:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Medal history
I see that most of White's medal history has been removed with the comment "Removed insignificant medals that was crowding up the page". I would like to point out that medals in especially the X-games but also as the overall winner of the FIS world cup are not classed as insignificant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.188.177 (talk) 06:00, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow. I agree. For all the vandalism that has occurred throughout the Olympics, Philipmj24, an apparently overzealous user decides to come in and completely bastardize this article. This is just beyond me. The amount of medals White has won is what defines his celebrity. And now this page ONLY reflects his Olympic performances. No doubt the changes were made because one is uninformed of the importance of the X-Games and how they define Shaun White. Good thing this article is protected. Too bad established users are doing the most damage right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.236.122 (talk) 09:33, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Gentlemen, I welcome the criticisms of my edits. In my attempt to improve this page before his Olympic win, I may of rushed some of my edits. The reason I removed the medals is because, on an international scene, the X-Games arn't that widely known. I live in America and a rarely hear any news on the X-Games. I stand by my edits, however, I can see how this would make some people upset. I believe the medal table should only be used for globally known competitions. Not for a annual competition hosted by ESPN.Philipmj24 (talk) 18:48, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


 * That is a ludicrous assertion. Just because you yourself rarely hear of the X-Games doesn't mean that they aren't a major, significant, and even international and hugely popular event. A large number of X-Games participants and medalists are from outside the U.S. and many go on to compete in the Olympics. In fact the X-Games have been a major factor in advancing the sport Shaun White is famous for. If you had read the Wikipedia article on the X-Games, you'd learn that there are X-Games events and demos around the world. Regardless, even if the X-Games were more U.S. centric, that doesn't mean they aren't significant on Wikipedia. You'll notice X-Games medal records are included in the pages of other athletes on Wikipedia. In your effort to force your own viewpoint on this article, you rashly removed a large amount of significant work others have put into this article. I would also argue that most people who visit this article want to learn about White's entire career, not just the Olympics, and his medal record is one thing that I personally have been most interested in lately. You can imagine my surprise to come back and see the entire section deleted. That's why I was a bit flustered myself. It's appropriate to clean up the medal record, and I very much applaud your positive efforts on this article, but to delete almost the entire medal history? More prudence in deleting others' edits might prevent angering other Wikipedia users like this. Gorgalore (talk) 20:02, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I concur. The X-games is widely known around the world and one of the most broadcast sporting events outside of the mainstream sports. There is no reason to question that. It is a sporting event that is broadcast in over 200 countries and anyone with even the slightest interest in extreme sports is familiar with it. Also the overall winner of the FIS-worldcup can not be classed as minor, I think that speaks for itself.

Philipmj24: I like the way you've solved it now with the ability to hide/show the medals. However I think that only the olympic and x-games medals should be shown in the column on the right (X-games being the unofficial world championships of extreme sports). It is also my personnal opinion that the overall wins of the FIS world cup should be mentioned here, but that can be discussed.

The rest of the medal history is not held in such high regard and may be considered minor. However, it is a vital part of the biography of this person and should not be neglected. I believe that an own section of his competitive records would be a better way to display the rest of his achievements - do you agree? 7R (talk) 02:47, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

media appearances
maybe a word about his appearances in late show, ellen degeneres or rachael ray? full list on imdb... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.186.142.166 (talk) 14:33, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

image
I added a higher quality image. Wasn't sure if I should use it for the infobox image or elsewhere in the article. Feel free to move it, as necessary.  Mahanga Talk 04:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I've been watching this page afetr he won gold the first pic with Mr.Branson was ok, I liked the croped one also but this one is better, good job !  Mlpearc  MESSAGE  05:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The pic with branson was raised at the BLP noticeboard, as guilt by association, pics in infoboxes with another person type issue. I have replaced the cropped pic, it is the newest and most correct as a portrait as per mos. Off2riorob (talk) 12:27, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Very good did'nt look at that aspect, Thanx  Mlpearc   MESSAGE  20:13, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. You still could've left the other image in the article.  Mahanga Talk
 * Is this article really worthy of two pics of the subject? It's like the same guy in a red shirt, I have shrunk the pic a fair bit. Off2riorob (talk) 23:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * After consideration I have moved and edited, please see if you prefer this position and comment, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 00:19, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Age?
Ok, the article contradicts itself so many times plus there no way he's only 24 right? Wasn't he in those 1-800-collect commercials back in the day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.172.200.241 (talk) 00:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That would be Carrot Top. Alanraywiki (talk) 00:19, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 155.33.141.123, 28 January 2011
I think a skateboard career history should be added. Right now, the only information on his skateboarding career is in the "snowboarding career" section, which seems a bit odd. As is already seen in the list of his medals, he's earned several medals in skateboarding. Although it is not as significant as his snowboarding career, he's definitely a very significant figure in skateboarding, earning a medal as recently as 2010. There is a bit of information in his official bio, here http://www.shaunwhite.com/bio/about/ as well as throughout the internet. XGames reports would definitely have information.

Update- Well at least move most of the beginning of the snowboarding career paragraph... "White's skateboard career took place during the same time he was rising through the snowboard ranks. White quickly drew the eyes of many in the skateboarder scene including professional skateboarder Tony Hawk. At this point Hawk befriended the nine-year-old White at a local skatepark and mentored him, helping him turn pro in skateboarding at the age of 17. White has gone on to win many titles on his skateboard..." has barely any mention of his snowboard career, besides that it took place at the same time as the skateboarding career they're talking about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.33.141.123 (talk) 04:36, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

155.33.141.123 (talk) 20:09, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Please be specific as regards any edit requests. Off2riorob (talk) 20:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Endorsements
White has had a sponsor since he was seven years old. White signed with CAA Sports for representation after working with IMG for eight years.[16] Corporate endorsement deals include Burton Snowboards, Oakley Inc., BFGoodrich Tires, Park City Mountain Resort, Target Corporation and Ubisoft. White also has video games Shaun White Snowboarding and Shaun White Skateboarding. In 2009, Forbes magazine estimated that he had earned $9 million from his endorsements in 2008. [17] In January 2011 White was named the #2 most powerful and marketable athlete in the country by Bloombgerg's BusinessWeek.com. [1]

1. “Tiger Woods No Longer Most Powerful U.S. Athlete,” BusinessWeek.com, January 27, 2011, http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/jan2011/bw20110126_747072.htm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RubyRoy (talk • contribs) 02:16, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

For peat's sake [sic]
This article contains a three-peat and a four-peat. Please tell me these abominations of word-manglery haven't been accepted into common usage. -- Snograt  talk here 05:29, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

"Threepeat" isn't too uncommon in certain sports, if it's about something big like winning a championship. I don't think it, nor any other -peat (other than repeat, of course) is Wikipedia-appropriate, despite slang usage. 217.120.178.21 (talk) 07:29, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Jshisler79, 31 July 2011
Update Skateboarding medals to add 2011 X-Games Gold Medal.

Jshisler79 (talk) 23:18, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Jnorton7558 (talk) 05:24, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 January 2012
Change:

2012
At Winter X, White became the first person to score a perfect 100 in the men's Snowboard Superpipe in the history of Winter X Games.

To:

At Winter X, White became the first person to score a perfect 100 in the men's Snowboard Superpipe in the history of Winter X Games.

Dcwills (talk) 06:27, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks. For future clarity, consider mentioning when changing piping, as it isn't immediately obvious. Dru of Id (talk) 10:31, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

2012 Winter X Games medal update
He reached the perfect score of 100 in Superpipe, but that also gained him a gold medal. Update this please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lars2TheV (talk • contribs) 17:27, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 March 2012
there is a mistake on how many surgeries he had before the age of five he had two before the age of five not one

Alonso damian sodari (talk) 23:29, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. No source provided for the change. Keith D (talk) 23:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect date on arrest
He was arrested on Monday, 9/17/12, not Tuesday, 9/18/12, as written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Our gaffes (talk • contribs) 13:42, 18 September 2012‎


 * I believe that "Retrieved" is when the source was first cited on Wikipedia, not when he was arrested. (To make a second point, the article points more towards Sunday as the date he was arrested than Monday.  "...Loews Vanderbilt Hotel at 2 a.m. Sunday...")  Super Goku V (talk) 01:59, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No, it clearly states Monday:
 * "A spokeswoman for Baptist Hospital said White was treated there and released on Monday before being arrested and booked by police."
 * Regarding dates - date is for the date of publication; accessdate is for the date that the source was checked prior to adding to Wikipedia; and dates formatted like 9/18/12 or 9/18/2012 are both forbidden by WP:DATESNO - they should be September 18, 2012 or similar. So, here we would put something like "arrested on Monday September 17, 2012 "


 * note how I've amended some parameters of the citation - for example, Author is both incorrect and meaningless. -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:35, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I have changed the date to September 17 per this request. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 14:57, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 January 2013

 * White had a cameo appearance as himself in the TV Show Go On (TV Series) in episode 13 Gooooaaaallll Doll!, with Mathew Perry.

Tinjr (talk) 09:51, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: He probably did. I have no reason to not believe you. But you'll need a reference for it. -Nathan Johnson (talk) 16:59, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 June 2013
At the very top, we currently have "Shaun Roger White' (born September 3, 1986) is an American professional snowboarder and skateboarder. He is a two-time Olympic gold medalist. We'd like to replace this introduction with this new and updated paragraph: Shaun Roger White (born September 3, 1986) is an American professional skateboarder and snowboarder. White maintains some of the highest accolades in skateboarding and snowboarding. Shaun has amassed numerous titles and victories, most notably gold medaling in both the 2006 & 2010 Winter Olympics. He holds the X-Games records for gold medals and highest overall medal count, and has won 10 ESPY awards.

Swe715 (talk) 22:48, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅, partly. See, this is why we don't allow PR representatives to edit articles. The non-neutral language and puffery in the above suggestion should be obvious. I have modified the lead paragraph to add the only encyclopedically relevant fact offered in this suggestion, which is the last sentence proposed. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:42, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 June 2013
Under the header "Endorsements," we'd like to replace the current entire paragraph with this new paragraph: "Actively involved in everything he does, Shaun takes a central role in each of his partnerships from the design of specific products, to the marketing of his brand. Essential to the development of the Shaun White style, Shaun collaborates closely with his brother Jesse White, who is the Creative Director of Shaun White Enterprises."

Swe715 (talk) 22:21, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * . Wikipeida is not a promotion channel.
 * The proposed replacement removes validly sourced material and replaces it with an unsourced PR puff piece devoid of any real content. Neutral, relevant facts only, please. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 June 2013
We would like to add a Philanthropy section as Section 7. Personal Life would be moved to Section 8, See Also moved to Section 9, References would be Section 10, and External Links would be Section 11. Under the Philanthropy heading, the text would be: "Shaun supports St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, Target House, the Boys and Girls Club of America  , and the Tony Hawk Foundation.

Swe715 (talk) 18:52, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. It's easy to insert a new section before "Personal life", but you should first propose the content of that section including verifiable, reliable sources. ~Amatulić (talk) 18:56, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 December 2013
Shaun White finished third (3), at World Cup slopestyle 2013 in Copper Mountain USA. The men's final took place on 21 december 2013.

Denny-D4N3 (talk) 19:59, 22 December 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅. De728631 (talk) 23:13, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2014
208.127.74.35 (talk) 03:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC) In The text, the medal count is incorrect. He has 13 winter x games golds. This adds up to a total of 18, not 15.
 * ✅ Funandtrvl (talk) 22:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2014
Change Bad Things to Bad Things (band) Xatlasm (talk) 14:09, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Xatlasm (talk) 14:09, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Thanks for reporting the problem, I have made the change. Keith D (talk) 14:17, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2014
Shaun & Jesse's appearance on Extreme Makeover Home Edition should be included in the media section: http://www.movieweb.com/tv/TErLdj3CSITvvt/celeb-cam-shaun-white It was one of my favorite episodes and definitely worth noting on his Wiki page!

24.136.246.98 (talk) 17:09, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Cannolis (talk) 17:36, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Snowboarding Career cleanup
This section contradicts itself several times. One example is that White's mother put him on a snowboard to slow him down when he was apparently taking snowboard lessons from his father already. It also doesn't clearly state anything, a lot of the language is non-specific (he turned pro at skateboarding, but it didn't say at what age for example, and it seems to say that he turned pro at skateboarding at age 6 if you read it wrong).

2010 Winter Olympics ON February 17, Shaun White won the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver for mens half pipe snowboarding —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.63.243.95 (talk) 04:35, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Also nothing is cited.

--24.179.81.187 02:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


 * also, it states - Shaun went pro in 2003 at the age of 17, and won his first pro contest in 2002 at the Panasonic Open in Louisville, KY (the 1st stop of the Dew Action Sports Tour). - how can he win a pro comp in 2002 yet turn pro in 2003? which is it, 2002, 2003? or is this normal and i'm clueless? if normal, maybe this should be stated for those not in the know, like myself... or is it just plain wrong? 194.221.133.226 (talk) 16:18, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The section "Snowboarding career" says that Shaun White's slopestyle winning streak ended in 2007 when he finished 3rd behind Andreas Wiig and Teddy Flandreau. I can't find any other records of Teddy Flandreau winning the silver medal (nor do I recognize the snowboarder's name), and this contradicts the wikipedia page and for the 2007 X games that claim Jussi Oksanen was the silver medalist. Gnarldog (talk) 20:06, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

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Broken bio link
In Section 3: Athletic Achievements, link [13] to biography.com is broken. The updated link should be http://www.biography.com/people/shaun-white-201311 Rhaphazard (talk) 02:43, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2016
I'd like to add specific info about Shaun's 2010 winning Olympic halfpipe run and links to relevant articles from Transworld snowboarding magazine.

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Proposal to merge & redirect The White Album (film) into Shaun White
Hey Shaun White editors,

I was working on the underlinked backlog when I came across The White Album (film). I couldn't find much in the way of sources to establish the film's notability, and it doesn't seem to me like it meets the bar for WP:NOTFILM. There's no critic reviews on | Rotten Tomatoes or | IMDB. Heck, there's only 7 user reviews on IMDB. This one seems like a borderline AFD but I figured it may be better to add a line about the film to Shaun_White and redirect there. Any objections? Or is anybody sitting on a bunch of references that we could use to make The White Album into a decent article? Thanks!  A  Train ''talk 07:03, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge & redirect – there's not enough to support a separate article on the film. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:25, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay, it's been a few weeks and we've got one editor in support and apparently no great surge of opposition so I'm going to make the merge.  A  Train ''talk 13:40, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2018
In the section "Snowboarding Career," change the sentence "Following in his older brother's[who?] footsteps" to "Following in his older brother Jesse White's footsteps" please. 107.13.170.170 (talk) 20:43, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done His brother's name of Jesse has been appended to the article along with a reference from the LATimes  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ   03:24, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 February 2018
Under Shaun White's Wikipedia page concerning the 2018 Winter Olympics, include the fact that he won a third olympic gold medal during the halfpipe competition with a best score of 97.25 in his third run after a first score of 94.5 and a second score of 55.0. HiddenEuler (talk) 03:12, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:06, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. You have not made any request Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:32, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

HiddenEuler (talk) 22:33, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
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Edit request -13 Feb 18
In the career details there is a part that reads:

White won his 6th consecutive SuperPipe victory,

Grammatically this is bad. It should read:

White won his 6th consecutive SuperPipe gold, Nichryan (talk) 18:13, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Points change
94.25 out of 100 is the highest score. Not sure when they stopped marking out of 50. 48.4 out of 50 in 2010. 48.4 out of 50 looks a better percentage. Section Athletic achievements. (Mobile mundo (talk) 20:09, 15 February 2018 (UTC))