Talk:Shazam (album)

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 * Done. Tag removed. Over and out. Grimhim (talk) 05:39, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

"a classic schizophrenic album"
"Schizophrenic" does not mean "split personality". This idea is an old pop culture misunderstanding of the psychiatric term. The wikipedia entry on schizophrenia says it best:

"Despite its etymology, schizophrenia is not the same as dissociative identity disorder, previously known as multiple personality disorder or split personality. Schizophrenia has been commonly and erroneously confused with multiple personality order".

"The word schizophrenia—which translates roughly as "splitting of the mind" and comes from the Greek roots schizein (σχίζειν, "to split") and phrēn, phren- (φρήν, φρεν-, "mind")[204]—was coined by Eugen Bleuler in 1908 and was intended to describe the separation of function between personality, thinking, memory, and perception."

"The term schizophrenia is commonly misunderstood to mean that affected persons have a "split personality". Although some people diagnosed with schizophrenia may hear voices and may experience the voices as distinct personalities, schizophrenia does not involve a person changing among distinct multiple personalities. The confusion arises in part due to the meaning of Bleuler's term schizophrenia (literally "split" or "shattered mind"). The first known misuse of the term to mean "split personality" was in an article by the poet T. S. Eliot in 1933" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.192.220 (talk) 20:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

"The Move's best album?"
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shazam_(album): "[Shazam] is generally regarded as the band's best LP." From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Message_from_the_Country: "This album has long had the reputation as The Move's best album,..."

Maybe the two Wikis could be coordinated, but the last edit here was nearly four years ago. 152.180.6.2 (talk) 20:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Indian instrumentation
Is a more comprehensive source available for the personnel section? I may be wrong, but it sounds like there is a sitar, or similar Indian instrument, on the extended instrumental section of "Fields of People". The Wiki article on Roy Wood does list sitar among the instruments he plays, and he is credited with sitar on the 1970 album by the band, ''Looking On, which was recorded just four or five months after this one was released. BlackCab ( TALK ) 07:59, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

"Cherry Blossom Clinic Revisited"
Presently, the article describes the medley of classical themes which close side A of the album as a "hidden track" with its own track number, timing, and credits. This is done without sourcing, and is IMO OR- there doesn't seem to be any basis in RSes to regard this as a separate track from "Cherry Blossom Clinic Revisited." It's been indexed as part of that track on all issues of the release, and is described as part of that track in eg the Rolling Stone review of the album or John Van der Kiste's book Roy Wood. No source is cited which identifies it as a hidden track. (No source is currently cited to identify the pieces quoted, either, which is also problematic.)

I removed reference to this supposed "hidden track" in September, but was reverted, with the revert claiming that it's OR not to hive off that part of the track, and not to credit the composers of the original works, although they aren't credited on the record. I don't see how this is the case- none of this is backed by sources in the first place, and quotations of public-domain works (as here) are regularly uncredited- eg Beethoven is not credited for the quotation from his Fifth Symphony on ELO 2, the Chopin quotation on Prologue (Renaissance album) is noted in a footnote, the Holst quotation on Absolutely Free is noted in the text of the article but not the songwriting credits, etc.

I think the RSes would support a footnote noting the works quoted in the extended ending to "Cherry Blossom Clinic Revisited," or an explanation in the text of the article, but presenting it as a separate track with distinct songwriting credits is irregular, and simply not supported. Yspaddadenpenkawr (talk) 22:29, 15 November 2023 (UTC)