Talk:Sheena Easton/Archives/2013

Booed in Glasgow
I removed the whole bit about her being "booed and bottled" in Glasgow. I can find nothing to support that this ever happened. A later comment about her "American accent" was removed as nonsense as she is hardly the first Scottish singer to use a non-Scottish accent to sing. As she explained on The Tonight Show in 1982, a song like "For Your Eyes Only" simply wouldn't have worked with a brogue and she demonstrated during the interview that she can't sing with a Scottish accent. I can't see that being the basis for "booing and bottling". If someone can provide a source - a media report, a review, an interview - to support this ever happened, go ahead and put it back. 23skidoo 15:24, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

I suggest you Check out: http://www.xfm.co.uk/article.asp?id=98152 "...The highlight was probably seeing Sheena Easton booed off the main stage though, after saying 'It's great to be home' in an American accent!"

and http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1021&id=1145232003 "... the answer came when she found herself booed at Glasgow's Big Day in 1990 " ( Just search for Sheena Easton )

All found after a short google search.
 * Both those are dubious at best. The Scotsman article just says she was booed. The XFM link is from an interview with some DJ guy who may be exaggerating. It's fine to say someone booed her (heck, I heard Philip Glass booed once by an irate patron of the arts) ... but it's quite another to say she was "booed off stage." For that we need a media source that effectively says her concert ended prematurely because she was booed off stage -- or that anyone threw bottles at her -- and that I've been unable to find. 23skidoo 17:31, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

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Evidence?
From the Daily Record, Aug 6th, 1997 - "Scots singer Sheena Easton wed for the third time in a quickie Las Vegas ... to star in Scotland again after being booed off stage in Glasgow six years ago"

From the Mirror (London) Aug 6th, 1997 - "Scots singing star Sheena Easton has married for the third time in a hush-hush Las Vegas ceremony...booed off stage on Glasgow Green in 1990"

From the Daily Record again, Feb 1st 2001 - " Sheena Easton's career is on the fast track to oblivion. ... booed and bottled off stage during The Big Day festival at Glasgow Green..."

From the Sunday Mail Nov 22nd, 1998 - "And so Scots singer Sheena Easton and film director Tim Delarm pledged For Your ... in Scotland again after being booed off stage in Glasgow"

From the Mirror June 27th, 2001 - "Sheena Easton is tripping the light fantastic once again. ... she was "bottled" and booed off stage at The Big Day on Glasgow Green in 1990.."

Panthro 16:05, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * All of these are tabloids, however, which are notorious for exaggerating things. Let's see a reference to the event made by Easton herself, or a non-tabloid review. 23skidoo 03:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * They may be tabloids but they meet the standard. It's ridiculous to demand a quote from the woman herself saying "I was booed off the stage in Scotland." Sylvain1972 20:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


 * There is actually filmed evidence of this. If you watch the 2000 documentary "Never Can Say Goodbye", you can see items being hurled at her during this concert.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 01:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Image deletion
Someone is welcome to try to post a new image for this article, but I would advise obtaining the social insurance number and the mother's maiden name of the photographer before attempting to do so other wise it'll just get marked for deletion. 23skidoo 19:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

reissue album; Christopher Neil quotes
Please put attribution or cite sourcing for Christopher Neil quotes about her back catalog. Also, info on Lover in Me reissue and where her career would/should be is speculative, not factual.
 * Please sign your comments. Speaking as a fan of the pre-Prince Sheena (I never cared for her work afterward) the possibility that there might be some unreleased early tracks is good news, but I agree something like this needs to be sourced otherwise it might just be wishful thinking. 23skidoo 15:28, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Deleted statement
I've deleted the following statement as simply too speculative and unsourced: "It has been alleged that during her time in the United States Easton has made herself stunningly rich through property deals." If someone can provide a reputable source, etc etc, it can go back in. Otherwise WP:BLP applies. 23skidoo 03:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Voice.
I removed the following text from the article:

''Easton speaks with an accent which sounds very noticeably Scots to the ears of people from the US, while sounding markedly North American to people from Scotland — something that sparks criticism in her homeland. Her Scots accent is absent from her powerful singing voice.''

''Unsurprisingly, a European accent makes her sound sophisticated and glamorous to American ears, while her hint of a North American accent is unfairly stereotyped as uncouth and barbarous by some Europeans. To others it suggests affectation and a desire to dissociate herself from her Scottish roots. This was compounded in an interview Easton conducted with Rantzen in 1989 reflecting on her success. On more than one occasion she referred to 'England' when meaning Great Britain, something often done by Americans but held to be inexcusable coming from a Scot. When she made an appearance at a concert in Glasgow in 1990, she was jeered off the stage by the audience.''

Barely anything in this article is sourced, but that text certainly needed sources. If someone can find reliable sources for it, then it can be put back in, but it'll have to be reworded to appear less POV in parts. Acalamari 17:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Improvements
The style of this article is written like a persons individual point of view, instead of a neutral one. This article needs to be rewritten and the style and tone changed to reflect only the facts about this artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevemor909 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Eastonscreen.JPG
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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

End Statement
Quote:

''Currently, Sheena is now the second British solo female artist to have a #1 (Morning Train 9-5) debut single, from 1981 to reach #1 on the Hot 100 US singles chart. The first is Petula Clark, Kim Wilde and now UK's Leona Lewis.''

Sorry to add further to this, but what does this actually mean? It makes no sense at all.


 * See that this sentence has been changed to make more sense. Perhaps it might be worth mentioning that she is one of only two Scottish female singers to have a US No.1 (the other being Lulu)? - Or perhaps not!--Tuzapicabit (talk) 20:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Deleting links
Why is the link to www.sheenaeaston.co.uk being deleted? Some of the information on this page has been sourced from this website, and the link is there for anyone wishing to research further on Sheena Easton. It is not there to improve page rankings or generate traffic to the website.

I believe the inclusion to be in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines on external links so please stop removing it or I will have to investigate ways of elevating this matter within Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheenanews (talk • contribs) 15:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Please read our policy on conflict of interests & external links - the site you are placing links to probably fails on account of both of those - thanks -- Herby talk thyme 07:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Album pages
Had a go at sorting out her individual album pages, so they should be a little more coherent now, but please can somebody sort this article out? It's like a nightmare to look at.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 21:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Accent
I think I was the one who originally added the point about Sheena's brogue being absent from her singing voice. I saw an interview with her that was done a few years back for the For Your Eyes Only DVD release and it sounded from the snippets included as if her brogue is gone from her speaking voice as well. Has anyone heard any recent interviews with her that might confirm whether she's lost the accent altogether? 23skidoo 21:50, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I heard Easton in concert 2003 Las Vegas and she spoke with an American accent but at times joked about it and broke into a Scottish accent while mentioning she still had it.