Talk:Sheldon Manor/GA1

GA Review
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 * Overview of GA Review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (no original research):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
 * 1) It is stable.
 * Low volume of edit activity; no edit wars apparent.
 * 1) It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
 * a (copyright tagged and captioned): b (appropriate use; lack of images does not in itself exclude GA):
 * 1) Overall:
 * a Pass/Fail:

This is a nice little article. Thank you for nominating it as a GA. I've brought up a few points for you to look at, and so place the review on hold. The article is generally sound. –Whitehorse1 22:18, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Well written requirement

 * "It and its owners were described by the New York Times as "... provid[ing] [ingredient] so many historic buildings lack" This is slightly awkward, referring to the inanimate building and people together.
 * ✅ now matches the cited article.


 * "and from 1917 it was owned by the Gibbs family" Maybe 'has been owned'? (Or rewritten in active voice.)
 * This isn't clear, because Mrs Gibbs moved out in 1992, and the present occupants are called Hawkins but I'm not sure if they've bought it or are tenanting.
 * Ah, okay. Given that, the current phrasing seems best.

✅ Have broken this up into smaller sections roughly based on historical periods.
 * The 2nd paragraph of the "History" section has a slight proseline feel. You can probably improve it by punctuation, spacing or other small adjustments.
 * Is it worth wikilinking AA/NPI?
 * AA is the The Automobile Association, but I can't find out which of the many NPIs it could be.


 * "Modern times" section: "It hosts summer productions of Shakespeare and operas in its grounds and is a licensed venue for weddings." The part about Sheldon Manor being a weddings venue is slightly confusing as only the grounds are open, and the house is inhabited.
 * ✅ rejigged this to avoid the ambiguity. It seems from one website that although the house is not generally open, rooms may be used for weddings, and I don't want to overstate this without checking with the local authority.

Broadness, Referencing

 * The "Antiques" section is small&mdash;yet proud! Is any further information available such as famous artefacts or works by well-known artists, etc?
 * ✅, found on the NY Times article, but unfortunately can't determine which of the three Teniers' it is, so have left it unlinked. I'll look into that.


 * Please check you have all web references properly formatted with publishers and access dates at the very least&mdash;I think 99% already are.
 * ✅ All look OK now, have attributed author for NYTimes article.


 * Are you able to clarify if there's one self-published Gibbs book or multiple titles? The Worldcat database is unclear, listing three possibly duplicate titles: http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/ number at numbers: 60674211, 78393569, and 220203069.
 * It would seem to be "(1983). Sheldon Manor: a history of the house and the manor. Cornwall, s.n.", which is the 78393569; the title matches information I've received from the Hawkins, but we don't need to cite it, although an isbn would help.
 * Agreed on the citing point. The search results made me wonder if Mrs Gibbs had written more than one book on the manor; the variations might be due to some sources including a subtitle, etc. The reported page counts (Worldcat, Amazon.com seller) varied too, though it's probably not worth reading much into that variance. For single self-published books, a private individual can obtain an ISBN, though as far as I know it's not a norm. In this case, I didn't find one; if anyone discovers one in the future, it can easily be added.


 * Is it worth mentioning/clarifying its 'Chippenham Without' / 'Chippenham Within' location mentioned at the Wiltshire County Council site you linked?

Images

 * On the first image you've added licensing information: "This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 License" ... No it's not. :) Please adjust to match the license at the source link.


 * Are there any historic images available? Perhaps an idea for future further improvement.
 * Some historic maps are at the country council site you have linked, though I don't know if these would genuinely add something to the article.
 * Have added the parish map to show location. Unable to find historic images of the Manor itself, but will take a look.

Final comments
Thank you for your prompt attentiveness during the review, Rodhullandemu. Your expansions and improvements strengthened the article beyond its already decent standard. You've indicated you've some thoughts &amp; ideas, and things in motion, for future changes, which is great.

As it stands, I believe the article does now meet the GA assessment criteria. On that basis, I am pleased therefore to pass Sheldon Manor as a Good Article. –Whitehorse1 18:47, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Much obliged for your advice and input. Makes a good day even better. -- Rodhull andemu  19:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)