Talk:Shia LaBeouf/Archive 1

This article is ridiculously long
Shia Lebouf has done nothing but be in two over budgeted bad Transformer movies and his page should be as long as Jesus'? Other people are right you reference and reference and sight so much meaningless nonsense. If Wikipedia is to become a respectable academic source it can't have articles about minor celebrities that more than half of us don't even know of that are longer than articles about major historical events. PLEASE SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY I CARE WHAT A MEDIOCRE ACTOR THINKS OF HIS OWN ROLES??? I know 30 million little kids went and saw Transformers but that doesn't make Mr. Lebeouf a serious actor who deserves so much pouring over as if he's done anything important or unique for the acting community (STOP TRYING TO TREAT HIM LIKE AL PACINO WHEN HE HASN'T EVEN STARRED IN A DECENT MOVIE YET!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.109.157.193 (talk) 13:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for addressing my first concern about this article. It's too long for its own good. He's a 23-year-old newcomer who's yet to prove himself a deserving artist for this kind of special treatment in Wikipedia. Somebody please tidy it up. --Artoasis (talk) 03:10, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

It has too many references. But you're clearly unaware that he has been actor for most of his post-pubescent life and Even Stevens was a huge deal to an entire generation of kids. Don't marginalize, particularly when you haven't done any research. The Red Queen (talk) 05:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

BAFTA
Has recently won a BAFTA (BAFTA Rising Star Award 2008). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.193.3 (talk) 21:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Disturbia Critical Popularity
Rottentomatoes.com informs us that only 68% of critics liked Disturbia, which is on the one hand a clear majority, but on the other hand an indication that one out of three of critics did not agree

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Tall Tales
Does anyone else get the very real feeling that at least some of his background is fabricated? It all seems very contrived. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.235.34.141 (talk • contribs) 10:10, 3 July 2007

It's cited in several relatively reliable sources. Dreamyshade 04:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

That's exactly his point ^^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.46.213.4 (talk • contribs) 15:51, 19 July 2007


 * Yeah. I get the feeling that something is up with his background info. Like it's a nice press release of something. Generalhoneypot 22:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

It says he started stand-up when he was 10 and bought a house when was 18. I think try adding 7 or 8 years onto both of those. The guy is obviously in his late 20s. 76.168.64.243 (talk) 17:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Shia is actually only 22. I believe that would be categoried as early 20's, not late. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.183.158 (talk) 20:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

it is true he did buy the house at age 18 and started stand up at age 10-11 as it was published in the most recent GQ magazine June 2008. Just a little side note: jim carrey started in comedy clubs around 14-16 dangerfield got him his breaks as his opener. ;)76.20.181.60 (talk) 01:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Great Article
Much of this article is clearly not directly lifted from IMDB (and not referenced). The man seems to have tons of fans, so maybe someone can put some applause into this artical... Jake b 00:36, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

GA pass
Wowsa, LaBeouf is really ready for his close-up with this excellent article. Alientraveller 12:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Just some advice: always remember that when continuing to improve the article, add fair use rationales to images, and please swap the free images. In fact, I'll do that. Alientraveller 12:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Favorite pastime
Wait, is Shia's favorite pastime really 'pooping' as mentioned in the article? I'd like to see a reference on that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.102.138.220 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 16 April 2007

Isn't it everyone's favorite pastime? I mean, really. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.15.38 (talk) 22:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation of name
I think it may help if someone adds the correct pronunciation of his name to the page. On Saturday Night Live, it was pronounced "SHY-uh luh-BUFF" --Pixelface 17:30, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

And last but not least his wonderful girlfriend, Alicia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.121.53 (talk • contribs) 05:19, 1 May 2007

I agree with this pronunciation, but "LaBeouf" isn't French for anything. "Le boeuf" (or, more accurately, "le bœuf") is French for "the beef" or "the ox". The subject's last name differs in gender and in spelling. Mbracy 15:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with this. I added the detail, but it was undid with a note stating: "unsourced content". This is insulting. Go check a dictionnary. Saying that "LaBeouf" is french for "The beef" is misinformation and because Shia said it that way isn't the facts. I think the way I explained this doesn't remove Shia's statement, and better informs the readers. Facts are the basic of Wikipedia. It is a fact that Shia stated about is surname. But the correction is also a fact.--Smumdax 03:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You would need a reliable source that makes this statement directly involving Shia LaBeouf in order to add it to the LaBeouf article. Please see WP:V - "Articles should only contain material that has been published by reliable sources" - "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth", and WP:NOR - "the only way to demonstrate that you are not presenting original research is to cite reliable sources that provide information directly related to the topic of the article, and to adhere to what those sources say". So, a source would be needed that presents what you are adding in relation directly to the topic of the article (Shia LaBeouf himself), not to the word "LaBeouf" or its variations. Tell-Tale Ghost 04:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This is really bull! What is a reliable source for you? Is an online dictionnary like Webster a reliable source? This is very bureaucratic dumbness. If Shia LaBeouf said in an interview that pink elephants are roaming his backyard, then you would accept pink elephants as facts and veto everyone who said that pink elephants do not exist? For inclusion in WP, we need verifiablity, not truth?????? WTH is this crass? The translation for "the beef" in french is spelled "le boeuf" and is VERY verifiable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smumdax (talk • contribs) 02:09, 17 July 2007
 * I know you're probably getting frustrated about all this, but please remember to sign your posts and please do not be rude to your fellow editors. Being uncivil will not solve anything. And please do not post in any language other than English, so that your fellow editors can understand what you're saying. -- SilentAria talk 02:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Let me get this straight: if Shia LaBeouf himself came forward and said that his surname is a variation of the real french spelling of "the beef", then it would be ok to put that in the article? Traduisez ça: je trouve votre intervention comme étant un parfait blocage d'entêté et WP n'a nullement besoin d'un radet comme vous pour offrir du contenu à la hauteur. Vous nuisez littéralement à l'intérêt de la communauté en vous cachant derrière des jargons d'admin et des conneries de gestionnaire.--Smumdax 02:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:V - "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth". A dictionary wouldn't be a source you could use here unless it explicitly mentioned Shia LaBeouf; the sources used have to mention the topic of the article. Tell-Tale Ghost 04:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You must be kidding me right? To SilentAria: I can't help but grow frustrated, because first, I'm being told that Wikipedia isn't about facts, which I find very untrue. And second, I just don't understand why at this time of writing, the passage about his surname had been deleted and no one even noticed it. So what I am to understand here, is that added details to make the article more precise are NOT welcome, but erasing that original info IS... You think I'm being rude? Maybe. But at least I'm making some sense around here, and I'm surely not the only one being frustrated about this. The only difference is that I'm vocal about it because I'm trying to take WP seriously and contribute.


 * On a quick side note, the first part of my last comment wasn't signed because of a : missing. Big deal. And another side note, try harder and go babelfishing. And now that I've steamed off a bit... reference lovers might wanna check the article again and tell me I'm wrong this time. BTW, I don't know how to do the ref thing, so anyone please be my guest.--Smumdax 05:13, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for adding the reference. Tell-Tale Ghost 05:36, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Origin of the name: please refer to geneanet French onomastics section source http://www.geneanet.org/onomastique/index.php3?nom=leboeuf&lang=fr&x=0&y=0

'Leboeuf: Surnom probable pour celui qui est fort ou corpulent comme un boeuf, le nom est fréquent dans de nombreuses régions, mais c'est en Vendée qu'il est le plus répandu' which I translate:

Nickname probably given to one who is strong or massive as an ox; the name is frequent in many [French] regions, but it is in Vendée in which it is the most common. Disdero 13:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

stop removing the information
LaBeouf again appeared on The Tonight Show With Jay Leno on June 13, 2007. He enjoyed a flask of whiskey with former NFL quarterback Terry Bradshaw in celebration of LeBeouf's 21st birthday. However, LaBeouf claimed his birthday was "today" (June 13). This has caused editing conflicts throughout various websites and databases. Ok...stop...it's useful information k —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.182.106.197 (talk • contribs) 09:34, 15 June 2007


 * Didn't he say that he went out celebrating the day before because it was his birthday that day? That would make his birthday the 11th, making the Wikipedia article correct. Mad Jack 05:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

So that information is... uhh, wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.177.97 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 4 July 2007

Was the Jay Leno episode broadcast live, or was it filmed on the 11th? JayKeaton 10:56, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Citation for use
Alientraveller 17:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Indiana Jones IV
The Indiana Jones 4 article makes no mention of LeBeouf's role in the film, much less any mention of him as Indy's son. I'm removing this info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.60.251 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 6 July 2007 You shouldn't have removed that information, it is correct. Shia plays Indy's son.

Hard to read
The childhood section is impossible to read. Besides the massive number of clauses in each sentence, every other word is separated by a footnote. Someone needs to rewrite that section. Sheep81 08:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think clauses are usually supposed to be more or less at the end of a sentence (after the dot), making it easier to read. I'll try and fix that up now. Tell-Tale Ghost 08:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Curious, how many footnotes do we need that he was raised Jewish? Six? -- Mapetite526 (talk) 07:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Seven apparently- I agree it's ridiculous. You need 3 citations maximum for something like that, 1 would be preferable. It's quality not quantity. One reliable source is all you need. 7 is just stupid, what next, a whole freakin' line of citations? Someone needs to take down at least 4 of the (less good) citations.

On a completely different note: Is it really le BUFF? The french way would be more like Le Berf. May well be an Americanisation of some sort, but just wondering if he really says it this way or whether the pronunciation guide is over-simplifying.

--90.213.91.89 (talk) 01:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Why is there so much wrong information.
Someone put in that he is engaged to a beautiful girl named Paige and they are gonna have lots of children. Does anyone know how to take that crap off.


 * Yeah.. It's frustrating! Everytime I visit this page there is either something about a new girlfriend or some kind of vandal! Everytime I look at the history tab there is user after user trying to revert the article from someone's vandal or personal life edit... How many so-called girlfriends can one guy have!? Anyway, I added my thoughts to this discussion page and placed it up top because I figured it's the issue mostly addressed. It amazes me how everyday people are adding their name to his personal life section claiming to be his "girlfriend" - of course it's going to be deleted! What a waste of time. --Rosario 15:10, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

POV?
"Disturbia was the most important film to LaBeouf of his three 2007 films, because it was a "character-driven" role.[15]" This could be argued against. Transformers made a load of money, and he was in a starring roll in it... I don't know, this just seems to be too arguable.J&#39;onn J&#39;onzz 00:55, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not POV because it's referencing something Shia said. Read the cited article. " 'Disturbia' is the most important one for me personally, selfishly," LaBeouf says. "Because this is really a performance movie. People are going to see 'Transformers' regardless of my involvement; people want to see Optimus Prime. 'Surf's Up' is driven by a whole different type of animal, literally. 'Disturbia' is character-driven, very different." As written in the article, it simply rephrases that slightly, saying it was the most important to him. Toroca (talk) 02:19, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * He was in the starring role of Disturbia too, and the director of Transformers said he did not choose Shia until he saw him in Disturbia a couple of months after its release on dvd JayKeaton 03:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

MISC

 * Why has he adopted the obvious mispelled name LaBeouf ? In French it is LeBoeuf (ox, think of beef). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.164.34.52 (talk • contribs) 12:54, 30 April 2007
 * Stop undoing my change.. It is incorrect to state tha LaBeouf is French for the beef.. there is no such word as "beouf" in french: It's "boeuf" and is a masculine word, so the correct wording would be "LeBoeuf", hence my change to "is derived from" FireWire 22:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:NOR and WP:V. This article can only state what reliable sources have said on Shia LaBeouf himself. Tying this in to "LeBeouf" without a source is original research. Tell-Tale Ghost 23:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Threatning on him? What the fuck does that mean? 06:43, 28 May 2006 69.3.160.97
 * Should his surname be LeBoeuf? (French for "the ox".) Anthony Appleyard 05:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * How on earth can those MySpace pages be verified? I highly doubt their authenticity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelCarl (talk • contribs) 10:56, 21 July 2006
 * I have a friend, who is friends with Shia. This is indeed his myspace., and my friend's from Stockton, and is neighbors with Shia. That's not really proof, but you could probably ask Shia yourself. -- andrew  20:54, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * LeBoeuf does not mean "the ox" in French. It means "the beef."Pointeprincess 20:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, the word has both meanings in French. Check your French-English dictionary, ask any French speaker. It is true that Shia likes to joke that his whole name means "Thank God for the Beef" - but it can also be translated (perhaps more accurately) as "A Gift from the Lord: The Ox." Erudil 15:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose being that his dad's a cajun.. well 'cajun' comes from 'accadian', so you can imagine what they'd do with words like boeuf with a combined-o-e-and-then-u vowel cluster. No offense to the creole folk, they just tend to mess up words. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 (talk • contribs) 06:11, 8 July 2007

Rihanna & Shia
There is more than two sources confirming thier relationship, removing vaild and sourced information goes agaist Wikipeda, you can not say 'I don't like it', and remove it.--Sugarcubez 14:07, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not a matter of whether I like the sources or not; I'm merely abiding by Wikipedia guidelines. The two sources are not reliable enough, as per WP:RS, WP:VERIFY, and WP:BLP. The number of sources doesn't matter, what matters is the reliability of these sources and the verifiability of this information. Gossip sites/blogs and other such sources that do not have official statements from the people involved do not count as reliable sources. These sources do not even specify who it was that said that the couple was "official" (apart from Perez Hilton, who is known as a gossip blogger), so there is no way to verify this statement. --SilentAria talk 14:49, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh my you need to read it, and removing valid sourced info. Look at the sources again, there is even of pic of them together. You can't delete just because you don't like it--Sugarcubez 20:55, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Again, I am not arguing from a personal standpoint of not liking what you're saying; I'm merely abiding by the guidelines I linked to. Did you even read the links I posted? Additionally, If you take a look at the picture in the link you posted, it's two separate pictures of them that have been edited to make it look like they're in one photo. Please be mindful of the reliability of your sources. --SilentAria talk 00:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Silentaria. If your best source is from blogs, fan boards, or gossip column then it is not valid and the information should be removed.  Personally, I am against putting information regarding a person's personal life.  LaBeouf is famous for his movies, and who he dates or not should not be reported on.  Fighting for Justice 03:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Image
There is a now a free image available on commons: Image:Shia LaBeouf.jpg, but it needs a crop to be useful as perhaps the top image on the page. Deadstar 16:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

His arrest --> Possible 'controversy' section?
Should his arrest (as already outlined in the main article body) be placed under it's own heading, placed instead under a 'controversy' section as to promote good article structure should any other events occur, or should the information be placed in personal life? One minor arrest surely doesn't warrant an entire section? — --Rosario 07:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Now that he's been arrested NUMEROUS times, I take it you're ready to concede this matter? I wonder when we'll hear about him robbing a video rental store or punching a girlfriend in the face? This kid's barely 21, has all the money he could ever want, and he ends up with an arrest record that leaves Robert Downey, Jr. sayin' "Enough already!" What a loser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.210.153 (talk) 21:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

According to Hollywood, it's OK to drink and drive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.119.33 (talk) 18:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Criticism and praise
Criticism and praise of the subject should be represented if it is relevant to the subject's notability and can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, and so long as the material is written in a manner that does not overwhelm the article or appear to take sides; it needs to be presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a neutral, encyclopedic tone. Be careful not to give a disproportionate amount of space to particular viewpoints, to avoid the effect of representing a minority view as if it were the majority one. The views of a tiny minority have no place in the article. Care must be taken with article structure to ensure the overall presentation is broadly neutral; in particular, subsection headings should reflect important areas to the subject's notability.

Content should be sourced to reliable sources and should be about the subject of the article specifically. Beware of claims that rely on guilt by association. Editors should also be on the lookout for biased or malicious content about living persons. If someone appears to be promoting a biased point of view, insist on reliable third-party published sources and a clear demonstration of relevance to the person's notability.
 * He isn't best known for his personal disputes with the law. He's best known as an actor and the article has to reflect that. Devoting an entire section to his personal life, specifically his arrests is in violation of WP:UNDUEWEIGHT. Its best to aviod 'Personal life' sections altogether and list all personal content in chronological order, rather than breaking up the article into different sections. The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  22:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Shia and Eliska Amor
It's already been and gone that he said he "fancies" her.

However, some websites claim they are physically dating too, some connecting her to that Walgreens incident with a police officer documenting her arriving to 'pick him up and drive him back to his hotel room', however the dating is only alleged at this time. I didn't actually think Eliska Amor was from Chicago (figured her hometown New York would be her stomping grounds?) although a second gossip story claims both actors were in Chicago professionally, working on script rehearsals for Eagle Eye. If they are dating it's a prominent piece of information - Should the speculation be added to Wikipedia? Or should users wait until it has been confirmed by them personally instead of relying on websites? --MissLollywood 07:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * How does one "physically date" a person? Is this the opposite of "mentally dating" someone?  If so, I have a much better social life than I thought, cuz I've been mentally dating people for YEARS!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.210.153 (talk) 21:29, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Definitely wait until a highly reliable source publishes the story with pictures and confirmation from either party. Adding speculative information will just make a mockery of the otherwise reliable information in the article, not to mention on the site as a whole. Plus, speculative information should never be added as it's easily related to gossip... Wikipedia is not a tabloid. Interesting though, regarding the Walgreen's thing. I guess we should just watch for a story, until then, leave it alone. – --Rosario 07:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

shia is no longer a smoker after seeing keona reeves smokings. he says it looks nonhuman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.4.78.20 (talk) 18:41, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I definitely don't feel like signing in with my name issues but I thought I'd drop by to say that Shia is a huge can of Cage and it's not mentioned in the article. Seeing as how he's doing or trying to do a movie about the guy I think it deserves a mention. I think there's an article in the latest issue of Spin. I'll have to check and MAYBE get back to you. I was able to find this older article to use as a reference http://www.complex.com/CELEBRITIES/Complex-Men/The_Method_Man_Shia_Labeouf 74.224.169.240 (talk) 23:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

GA Sweeps (on hold)
This article has been reviewed as part of WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed.


 * 1) The lead needs to conform to WP:LEAD. It must adequately summarize all the major points/headings made in the body of the article (currently there's little if anything on the follow sections: "Early life and family," "Education," "Comedian" and "Personal life") and it must not introduce information not contained in the body of the article (I don't see the fact that "Several media publications have speculated that LaBeouf, whose screen persona was described by Time magazine as that of the "scrappy kid next door", might become a major film star throughout 2008." mentioned in the body of the article).
 * 2) I'm a bit confused why Image:ShiaLeBeoufByPhilKonstantin.jpg has a public domain tag, but the caption has a "Detroit News" credit on it. In any case, the caption needs to be cut down, as the photo has been cropped and doesn't describe the picture accurately (Michael Bay is not in the photo, for example)
 * Now there's no caption at all, which is no good
 * 1) Image:20070406 051844 040807 shia.jpg has no acceptable fair use rationale whatsoever.
 * 2) All direct quotes must be directly cited, even if it's the same citation used at the end of the sentence/paragraph.
 * 3) "His parents eventually divorced, and he had what he has described as a "good childhood", growing up poor with his mother (who worked selling fabrics and brooches) in Echo Park, Los Angeles, California." (Early life) Requires a citation for both the direct quote and the whole statement itself.

If these concerns are addressed, I will return to check the references.

I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far. Cheers, CP 19:30, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Since new concerns have been discovered and old ones were addressed, I will allow for a little more time to address the issues. Cheers, CP 23:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Over-referenced
Do we really need four and sometimes five references for mundane details? Is someone trying to show off? Booharv (talk) 05:58, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Err, when it comes to bigraphies of living persons (or, to be blatently honest, any article), you really cannot over-reference... Talk Islander 10:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Or as Shia would say: "No no no no No NO NO NO no no no, yeah, no no no no."

Encopresis
In GQ magazine, he says that he used to shit himself until he was 12 when he got a job. If he was serious, this info should be added to the bio. Chantessy 17:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Reliability Of Lauren Hastings Source
Shia and Lauren are not officially dating - he only called her one of the most beautiful women he's ever seen. They have not released any statements and this should remain rumor until this relationship is confirmed... Will someone remove this information? talkingjade  —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Name pronounciation
The video in which his name is pronounced has been taken down.  Weeliljimmy  talk 03:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Name spelling: Redirects
Can we have redirects from "Shia_LeBoeuf" and "Shia_LaBoeuf" so people who type in the URL directly but misspell his name the French way can still find the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.176.7.3 (talk) 12:59, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

"French" name spelling
Since the page is semi-protected, can someone change fix "le boeuf" in the "Family" section? It should read "le bœuf"; this is not simply a matter of fancy typography, French orthography actually requires using "œ" in some words. Spelling it as "oe" is incorrect, and tolerated only when the correct symbol is unavailable, which is not the case here on Wikipedia. Source: me as a native french speaker, but then again you only have my word. Other sources: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C5%93uf and http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/boeuf. :-) 151.68.4.93 (talk) 16:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Filmography
Edit: Never mind. Robin.lemstra (talk) 07:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC) Robin.lemstra (talk) 08:01, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

"Every film ever made"
He has hardly appeared in every film ever made (see filmography). Edit this please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carljohanemil (talk • contribs) 22:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Shia LaBeouf
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Shia LaBeouf's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "commentary": From Transformers (film):  From Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: Rinzler, Bouzereau, "Script draft by David Koepp summary and commentary: April 23, 2007", p. 248–255 

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:22, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Reference 96
I'm assuming at one point there was an article there, but there isn't now. King Rhyono (talk) 05:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Better picture?
Is there any better picture we can use for the infobox? All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 07:04, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Shia_LaBeouf --SkyWalker (talk) 06:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Polish Holocaust ???
There as no such a thing as "Polish Holocaust"! "LaBeouf's maternal grandfather, a Polish Holocaust survivor who shared his first name" Please edit that misinformation. The Holocaust was done by Germans in territory of occupied Poland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.73.202.185 (talk) 22:30, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the point of the statement was that the grandfather was Polish, not the Holocaust. I'll add "Polish-born" to clarify. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 06:53, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank You for that clarification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.73.202.185 (talk) 12:45, 30 January 2010 (UTC) kl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.161.35 (talk) 22:53, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

LaBeouf's Arrest
I didn't mean to offend anyone as you're all far better editors than myself but I wanted to be firm in letting people know about the drunk driving laws in CA as they apply to this case. Anyone who refuses a breathalyzer examination in the state of California will be arrested for misdemeanor drunk driving and their driver's license will be suspended for one year. No other evidence is important. Refusing a breathalyzer is the direct cause. LaBeouf was not singled out and this is not uncommon. It is procedure for police to collect the license at the scene. Thanks.The Red Queen (talk) 21:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for rewording the sentence! liquidluck ✽ talk  22:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Name
The current reference no. 11 about the origins of his name leads to TCMDb, but this is probably a bad source. The explanation given there is the nonsensical "His name "Shia" (which rhymes with "hiya") is Yiddish and French. It means "Thank God for the beef". --Pbn-dk (talk) 10:04, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Pending changes
This article is one of a small number (about 100) selected for the first week of the trial of the Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Pending changes/Queue  are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.

The following request appears on that page:

However with only a few hours to go, comments have only been made on two of the pages.

Please update the Queue page as appropriate.

Note that I am not involved in this project any more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially.

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 20:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC).

Little Hamlet!
His vita seems real a little weird. May be he likes to tell fancies in ouerdays, like he does as a kid. Are there some contingent informations possible? He impresses as "Jake" the peacefull agent for investingation questions in the film "Wallstreet II". So he is reminding on hamlet ! His privat troubles are in opposite to this appearance. Well done! Jack is stuck!--Raskollnika (talk) 13:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Heritage
His mother is of Russian Jewish origin. http://www.talktalk.co.uk/entertainment/film/biography/artist/shia-labeouf/biography/170 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.234.142.157 (talk) 22:01, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Name pronounced: "SHY-uh luh-BUHF"
Here is a sourced pronunciation (American Standard English) in case any regular editor here wants to match it to Pronunciation_respelling_key. Source: People (magazine), April 11, 2011, page 32, Time, Inc., "Say What??: Scoop's handy pronunciation guide to today's tricky celebrity names." Shia Labeouf's name is written as "SHY-uh luh-BUHF." 5Q5 (talk) 15:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Filmography table
Something is wrong with the tables in the filmography section that is messing the page up from that point down. I can't find what it is but can someone fix it. Dylan (talk) 00:46, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.  00:53, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

LaB...WhatIsThis?
It's the first time I see capital letter between small letters! Please, can anyOne tell me why's that? --Περίεργος (talk) 13:45, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * And what's about "McCartney"? Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  00:53, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I really don't know. What kind of grammatical phainomenon is this? Where's the coresponding article? I 'm not a native english or french speaker, so I don't know where to search about that. --Περίεργος (talk) 08:06, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * It's called camelCase or "medial capitals". As LaBeouf is the Anglicization of a French name, the "La" is likely the remnants of a linguistic particle.  Chickenmonkey  09:02, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * ThankYou:)--Περίεργος (talk) 21:15, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome.  Chickenmonkey  21:21, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused by the claim that the word LaBeouf is an "Anglicization" of the French name LaBoeuf. In what way is the first word more English or "Anglicized" than the second word?

Name LaBeouf
If this last name is of French heritage, then it is a corruption of Le Boeuf, which would explain its American pronunciation. Otherwise if you insist of LaBeouf, it should be pronounced differently La Be OOF. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmcangas (talk • contribs) 23:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * OR... it doesn't matter how you think his name should be pronounced or even what is technically the correct way to pronounce his name; all that matters is how the actor himself pronounces/spells it.72.89.142.185 (talk) 04:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

That's interesting, so everyone can pronounce their name as they wish, whatever their whim is...  We should also spell any word as we feel like it...  Is that the spirit? So I will write my name KKKKK and pronounce it Smith, what the heck..., why not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmcangas (talk • contribs) 03:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

His name is misspelled, plain and simple. In all likelihood the corruptions stems from his ancestors forgetting the French language. It's like someone named Carpenter who spelled their name Carpnetnre, or a Gonzales who spelled it Gnozlaes. The correct spelling is LeBoeuf - LaBoeuf would also technically be wrong, but at least not as embarrassing as LaBeouf. 24.202.228.66 (talk) 21:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


 * More technically, Le Bœuf. Is this guy so bad at French that he can't even spell his own name, or is he just trying to be creatively funny? I believe Walter Mondale was looking for him at one time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.238.166.72 (talk) 17:51, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Reminds me of one of those "things children say" TV programmes, in which a girl was reading from some text including the phrase "the Grand Prix" - "the grand pricks..." she said. She was corrected by an adult but replied, "It may be 'grahn pree' but it says 'grand pricks' here !" 80.189.176.196 (talk) 12:25, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Possible material

 * Shia insolence! Transformers star LaBeouf 'spits water over shock rocker Marilyn Manson' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Red marquis (talk • contribs) 15:12, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

The picture on wikipedia
Change the picture because LaBeouf does not look formal in this picture. A better picture is needed. A suggested replacement would be "http://collider.com/wp-content/image-base/People/S/Shia_LaBeouf/shia_labeouf_04.jpg"

Thank you in advance.

Donanurag (talk) 23:30, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * . That picture is not free. We would need a free image to change it. gwickwire &#124; Leave a message 23:41, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Citation needed
Do we not need some evidence that the critically panned fourth Indian Jones "film was a critical and commercial success." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.171.40 (talk) 20:38, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Check the film's reception. It wasn't "critically panned". Take Rotten Tomatoes: while the public gives it 59%, the critics give it 78%. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 10:58, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion; more details about quote origin
In the Religion section, maybe change "LaBeouf has stated that he has a [...]" to "In 2004, LaBeouf contributed an essay to the book I Am Jewish by Judea Pearl, in which LaBeouf stated that he has a [...]". Adding the year may better put the quote in perspective. He wrote that when he was eighteen or seventeen (a minor); he was young. Three or so years after that he stated: "I had a bar mitzvah and was baptized [..R]eligion never made sense to me." He is currently twenty-seven. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 11:15, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 19:38, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 08:48, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

"Religion"
How can anyone who has the ability to read and comprehend not notice the contradiction in the "Religion" section? I know that this page is edited often which indicates I'm an idiot, unless someone confutes my statement, I'm not an idiot. --Faizi1997 (talk) 12:21, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * People often say things that appear contradictory. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 12:55, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

HowardCantour.com - Short film directed by Shia Starring Jim Gaffigan
Sources: deadline, buzzfeed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.17.123 (talk) 02:47, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Shia certainly admitted to script theft, but it's a common practice in Hollywood: Steven Spielberg is a big script thief ("Amistad" for instance was stolen) and James Cameron is a script thief.  Such films as "Shakespeare In Love", "Driving Miss Daisy", "Jingle All the Way", "The Terminator", etc., etc. were all stolen.  So Shia stole in a world where stealing another person's writing is considered a joke.  50.202.81.2 (talk) 17:23, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * He has personally confessed and apologized over twitter and it has been widely reported in reputable non-gossip sources like USA Today and Time so it seems notable and well-cited enough to appear in a page about a living person.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.93.155.198 (talk) 18:25, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * He even plagiarized his opening tweet and here is the original source. 68.45.110.5 (talk) 21:20, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I've cleaned up that section a little for the sources and just for flow in general. I've included one of his quotes from the Bleeding Cool interview, as I don't know how to exactly paraphrase it without possibly getting it wrong. I think I know where he's trying to go with that (even though I don't agree) but I think it's something that could be interpreted in a lot of ways. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:33, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Retirement?
The guy just reported that he's "retiring from all public life" because of "attacks to his artistic integrity". What gives? --uKER (talk) 23:58, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

He is one of the most over rated talents in Hollywood. Please don't disappoint us Shia. Please do retire. Take your boyfriend Bieber with you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.136.233.53 (talk) 01:12, 12 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Considering the recent nature of his public activity, I think we should hold-off on mentioning this in the article. Even the sources that are reporting this are treating it as likely another performance/publicity-stunt/meltdown/mockery. Wait for better sources, WP:RECENTISM and what-not. Nothing to see here, folks, move along. Grayfell (talk) 01:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't exactly care about the guy. My question was meant to ask what could have motivated this statement. --uKER (talk) 07:44, 12 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, I see. It's about Howard Cantour.com. This Wired article is an example of 'attacks to his artistic integrity' which also sums up the recent history. Grayfell (talk) 00:58, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Not famous any more!
Legend.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 20:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

film debut error
Shia's fill debut was not Holes, but as it shows in his filmography, The Battle of Shaker Heights. please correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.164.5.177 (talk) 18:40, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Shia does not mean "gift of God."
Shia means, "God is salvation."

http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Shia.html

Nathan means, "God has given" or "gift of God."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_(given_name) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.104.191.44 (talk) 15:50, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Next reponse to plagarism accusations
The next part of that story, which hasn't yet been posted, is Labeouf claiming that his plagarism and plagarized apologies were all a piece of performance art commenting on the unoriginal nature of art and such: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/shia-labeoufs-plagiarism-performance-art-explanation-decoded/story?id=21625075

And I know that doesn't sound valid to everyone, but it's the explanation he gave, so it should be covered. 74.111.125.33 (talk) 19:08, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Picture
Caption: LaBeouf wearing a brown paper bag over his head. Someone may add "in 2014" or whenever the photo was taken. The page is protected. SR340 (talk) 10:23, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Different spellings of his name
Can't edit as icba to set up an account but his name has been spelt a couple of ways in this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.172.190.211 (talk) 13:00, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Arrest, and his sweary responses
I've removed a lot of the "quotes" attributed to LaBeouf from the section on his recent arrest, as these are not in any of the referenced news items. One of the items I removed, which was the uncensored version, was almost the same as what was written in the article, but not quite.

I would suggest that as we are wading through negative BLP territory here, we need to be careful and give quotes exactly as reported, and not uncensor them, or paraphrase them in any way. For example, the swear words. Ok, so "F--k" is pretty likely to be "Fuck", but to play devil's advocate it could also be "Funk" or a made-up psueodo-swear word, and Mr LaBoeuf could have been self-censoring. Thus he would be annoyed to see how his words have been twisted. Granted, this is unlikely, but I would still caution against uncensoring what is reported.

Remember that we should be relating what has been reported, not carrying out original research, no matter how obvious the reality is. Stephen! Coming... 12:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I changed the wording to "a homophobic slur" though, because, as far as I know, he only said "faggot" (well, it was censored as "ft"), and saying to someone "suck my dick" isn't really a homophobic slur in this context, despite what I think the source reported.  Ss 112  12:13, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. I mean your changes, not his words. Um...
 * I'll go and be quiet now LOL Stephen! Coming... 15:50, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Please be precise when quoting sources
I have reverted a number of edits where people have put in the blanked out swearing, or attributed quotes to LaBeouff that have not appeared in the cited reference.

Before you edit out any censored text, or adding his quotes in uncensored form, please remember this section from the policy on offensive material (my emphasis):


 * In original Wikipedia content, a vulgarity or obscenity should either appear in its full form or not at all; words should never be bowdlerized by replacing letters with dashes, asterisks, or other symbols. However, when quoting relevant material, rendering a quotation as it appears in the source cited trumps our style guidelines.

If you are adding quotes that could be considered a violation of WP:BLP that you have heard being reported it is extremely important that the cited reference is given. I have removed a few variations of "I am going to f--- up your career" (I forget the exact wording). The inline reference next to it did not mention that line at all, so I had to remove it.

REMEMBER: If you are posting something that might be classed as offensive, or are adding information that might put you in trouble with libel laws, ALWAYS include a reference, and ALWAYS report quotes exactly as written - not just here, but on any article. If it ultimately transpires that this whole episode was faked to discredit the named individuals (unlikely, I know, but who knows what the Lizard People Cartel get up to?), then LaBoeuff, Cummings, the police, the homeless guy etc. would be well in their rights to sue anyone who reported their actions. And if a Wikipedian editor had added to the information, then they would be putting themselves up for legal problems too. Stephen! Coming... 12:01, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2014
Change the main photo.

Mandi06 (talk) 09:51, 23 September 2014 (UTC) It is a bad photo of Shia!
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. Cannolis (talk) 16:18, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Religion
The wiki article says he describes himself as Jewish. He now identifies as a Christian "I found God doing Fury. I became a Christian man, and not in a fucking bullshit way—in a very real way. I could have just said the prayers that were on the page. But it was a real thing that really saved me." - http://www.interviewmagazine.com/film/shia-labeouf/#page3 80.1.219.140 (talk) 22:13, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Added. Note that the existing text was retained, as it reflects the fact that he has made various comments concerning religion and his relationship with it over a span of years. Dwpaul   Talk   22:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This is a bit confusing, because LaBeouf may have been talking about becoming Christian during the filming of Fury in order to "get into character", since he was playing a devout Christian. It's probably premature to say LaBeouf is actually Christian given that his comment makes it unclear if it's a long-term thing, or just something during the filming of Fury. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 23:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed; That's why I quoted his comments in the interview verbatim. No one should add "Religion: Christian" to his infobox based on this, or make other definitive statements about his religious beliefs (unless he does).  Dwpaul   Talk   00:06, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * i know u added to the religion section but he is still described only as jewish in early life. in the full answer given in the article linked above it shows how shia talks about the director of fury and brad pitts faith and how even with their 'diametrically opposed positions' on religion he came to this conclusion so it was not just for the filming of fury 80.1.219.140 (talk) 00:24, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * That is your interpretation. The article must adopt a more neutral tone, and we must be very careful about such matters. We will wait for him to say something more definitive before we take his comments in this interview as describing his adoption of a new faith. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;"> Dwpaul  Talk   00:50, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Also – LaBeouf says of Pitt and Ayers "these two diametrically opposed positions [Pitts' unnamed spirituality and Ayers's full subscription to Christianity] both lead to the same spot, and I really looked up to both men." So he says he respects them both, but he does not say that he adopted either of their positions on religion, or that he changed his, other than making with their help the transformation needed to play his character.  Wait for more. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;"> Dwpaul   Talk   00:58, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * i took "both lead to the same spot" to mean he took both views but it still led him to be a christian regardless of brads view and not to mean the further development of his character as i don't see how brads view would be relevant to helping with his christian character 80.1.219.140 (talk) 01:22, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * That's how you took it, but that is not what he said. We should not put words in his mouth. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;"> Dwpaul   Talk   01:25, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * i did not put words in his mouth as he was describing how he became christian and he also says "it was a real thing that really saved me" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.1.219.140 (talk) 01:30, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Look, I'm not going to debate this with you here. Please review the Wikipedia policies I mentioned above (I have bolded the links to them to make them easier to find). He never stated that he has personally adopted the Christian faith.  He may very well have meant that he was "saved" in the context of finding the inspiration to portray a devout Christian on screen when he himself is not one.  As long as there is ambiguity, we are not going to state that he has undergone a religious conversion.  It is up to LaBeouf whether he wants to talk more about it.  Perhaps if he does, his meaning in this interview will be more clear. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;"> Dwpaul   Talk   01:36, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * he said he became a christian man and in this context it does not seem to be just about the part he is playing which u may interpret it as and when someone says they are saved it means by god and does not fit into what u are saying and i am aware of wikipedia policies and u should not use this as a forum and should be used to improve the article and i only continued the convo when u started with "Also – LaBeouf says of Pitt and Ayers " 80.1.219.140 (talk) 02:05, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm a little late here, sorry. I don't understand how much clearer Shia could be. He said he became a Christian. I mean if you're going to say "he may've well meant this this or this", you need to do it with every individual on this site... because with that logic we can never know for sure what somebody truly thinks. Fact is, Shia said, "I could have just said the prayers that were on the page [meaning the script], but it was a real thing that really saved me... I became a Christian man, not in a f**king bullsh*t way, but in a very real way." I think it's pretty obvious what he meant. Marshan3q (talk) 08:25, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Any actor playing the role of a devout Christian "becomes" a Christian if he is worth his paycheck. The question is whether he did so outside the context of his role in Fury.  His words in the interview are highly ambiguous on this point, and unless and until the actor says more, we should not claim that he has undergone a religious conversion. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;"> Dwpaul   Talk   20:28, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note that we are not suppressing the information in the interview, which readers of this article can read and about which they can draw their own conclusions. I am strongly suggesting that we simply do as we have done, and publish his statement without comment, or more specifically synthesis, that says something he may not have intended to say. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;"> Dwpaul   Talk   20:31, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit request
Please update your article to include that 'Disturbia' is based on the storyline of Hitchcock's 'Rear Window.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.84.102.240 (talk) 21:19, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * ❌ That belongs in the article on Disturbia, not inserted in the two sentences of this article that discuss Shia LaBeouf's role in the movie. (And it is already there.) <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;"> Dwpaul  Talk   22:52, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Error
Notably, citation 53's sentence states that the Transformers: Age of Extinction film featuring Mark Wahlberg is 'to-be-released when, in fact, it is now available on ITunes. Thanks guys!Michaelclykes (talk) 23:15, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Yeah, that was way out of date. Good catch, thanks. Grayfell (talk) 00:57, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

music video section
should we add it? he's on Elastic Heart MV w/ Maddie Ziegler zlouiemark [ T ] [ C ] 08:41, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Cannibalism.
Shia LaBeouf is an alleged cannibal, according to tumblr. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.161.63 (talk) 22:18, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * And tumblr is a reliable source or tumblr users are so stupid to continue disrupting Wikipedia? Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  22:24, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * And here I pressed on this new message thinking he'd been eaten. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 22:33, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * So, just to be clear, Shia LaBeouf is not a cannibal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.187.241.209 (talk) 00:47, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No, he is not, it is just an internet meme. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  02:53, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * But has he himself been the subject (object?) of cannibalism? That is the internet meme I am trying to pursue, if one does not already happen to exist. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 02:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It is just a song that somebody created. You can Google "Actual Cannibal Shia LaBeouf" and see them at YouTube. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  03:06, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm just messing with you. When you hear "Shia LaBeouf" and "cannibalism" in the same sentence, it's hard not to pursue that angle. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 15:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, is the song about his alleged cannibalism notable, however? 76.123.2.124 (talk) 21:22, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Two years later, it's become notable enough for a Time article and a Washington Post interview, among other sources. He's not a cannibal, nor is there any verifiable source that he has ever personally experienced cannibalism.  He has taken the song (and now video) in good humor, apparently.Winged Cat (talk) 18:06, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Is this the Rob Cantor of Tally Hall? If so, the article should probably say so, since Cantor is apparently not notable enough by himself to warrant an article here (leading the reader to wonder if his song and SL's reaction to it are notable, despite the refs). <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;"> Dwpaul  Talk   18:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Indeed, that is the one. I have added that note.Winged Cat (talk) 20:50, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

If the prosecutors in the US with the same busy as in Brussels ?91.183.118.112 (talk) 13:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)