Talk:Shiba Inu/Archive 2

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2014
Request: Would like to replace the photo of shiba inu in the History section (Shiba inu blacktan.jpg) to another photo, also from the Wikimedia Commons (Female Shiba Inu.jpg).

Justification: 1. The existing photo shows urajiro only partially. Proper Urajiro (markings--usually in white--throughout the body) should be present muzzle, cheeks, chest, above the eye (only for black and tan), inside of the ears, underside of the tail, behind and inside of all four legs. I belive the photo I am suggesting demonstrates urajiro more clearly.

2. The existing photo does not specify the gender of the dog. Males and female shibas are distinctly different in appearance (e.g. proportion, skull shape, size, etc) and I believe that it would be more helpful if the readers can tell the gender of the dog that they are seeing.

In light of full disclosure, the picture was taken by myself, but I truly do believe that this photo shows shiba inu's characteristic appearance clearer than the original image does.

Conclusion:Change from this (in the 'History' section of the article):

To this:

Alexjung85 (talk) 05:40, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but no. Because the markings above the eyes in the proposed image are not tan enough, looking white to me. Also the rest of the tan parts are not distinct and large enough for a black and tan/tricolor Shiba. Oda Mari (talk) 08:21, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Not done:

Health
, just give me a second, I am workig on it. Hafspajen (talk) 12:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Sure, no problem. - Ahunt (talk) 12:17, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Added a couple of pictures of standing dogs, because most of the pictures were of dogs sittig or details. It is important in dog articles to show the dogs body, legs, position, color variety and coat variety on the body, etc. Hope the tan dog is tan enough... Hafspajen (talk) 21:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Good job! Your changes look good to me! - Ahunt (talk) 21:29, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Misc
Shiba inus are just like real-life teddybears! They have cute plump little faces that are just adorable.Yet Shiba Inu's are a bit hard to train but,so cute and cuddly.(just like other dogs it is best to train them when they are younger)

I just replaced the japanese name -- any reason why it was deleted? Ben White 5 July 2005 13:00 (UTC)


 * It got reverted again, and I just restored it - I did a few google searches, and the name seems to represent the Shiba. Trysha 22:09, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

If the Japanese name is going to be used, shouldn't it be "Shiba-ken" then? Since the 2nd character isn't read "inu" in that combination. Ef 09:37, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Sure? WWWJDIC gives the reading しばいぬ for 柴犬 Ben White 11:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Whether correct or not, a direct translation is not necessary. In the english speaking world or more particularly kennel clubs, the English wording is Shiba-inu. PedanticSophist (talk) 01:21, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree. I live in Japan, and I have never heard them called "Shiba inu" by any native Japanese speakers-- and they're a very popular breed of dog.  They're always called "Shiba ken".  True, according to Google, "Shiba inu" is preferred in the English-speaking world-- a practice that strikes me as quite bizarre.  I would definitely prefer them to be called either "Shiba ken" or "Shiba dogs", but as Wikipedia has no jurisdiction over, say, the American kennel club, my recommendation is to simply explain this debate on the main page.

126.16.180.184 (talk) 16:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Last comment
This statement needs to be removed from the article: "It is similar to but smaller than the Akita." This sentence has no citation, is not accurate and does not make sense - similar how and why is this relevant in relation to other comparisons that could be made to, say, the hokkaido ken? The Shiba and Akita are completely different dogs and this does not really add value to the description of the Shiba other than to say that the two breeds look asthetically similar (but so do the Saluki and Afghan Hound which, again, are completely different dog breeds). Stella inu (talk) 12:59, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't know where to respond because I can't find comment, but we do mention the fact because of the possible confusion, remember children also read this encyclopedia too; State the obvious, it has to be mentioned, and source gives this for:
 * Spitz: Hafspajen (talk) 13:29, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Akita:


 * 
 * Yes it has to be mentioned, because of the possible confusion. Hafspajen (talk) 13:31, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2014
Article states that shibas enjoy puddles and swimming. This is strait up wrong. Most shibas will dislike water and have a tendency to scream and complain if they are forced into water. Some do like swimming, but as a general tendency the article should inform users that shibas are generally hydrophobic.

Scarlac (talk) 11:13, 6 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited a reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or removed from, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 16:45, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

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Assessment comment
Substituted at 05:59, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Mention Doge
There is an entire wikipedia page for Doge, so it was weird to see that there isn't any form of mention to the famous internet meme in this page. A short sentence like "The Shiba Inu was the subject of a famous internet meme" or something like that would be enough.

--2001:4661:7FD5:1:C4D7:DC95:B316:F33A (talk) 19:42, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Name Change
This page should be moved to "Shiba dog", as not only is the Akita's page named like this, but "Shiba Inu dog" would be redundant since "inu" means "dog" in Japanese. It's a Shiba dog, not a Shiba Dog dog. --Vigilante Girl (talk) 10:03, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * In Japan the name of the breed is written 柴犬 versus say a Scottish Terrier (スコティッシュ・テリア) it may seem redundant, but it's the breed's name here and in the US per the AKC. Mccunicano 10:17, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * But isn't it the same in Japan for all other Nihon-Ken breeds? (e.g. The Akita is called the Akita Inu (秋田犬) and so forth.) --Vigilante Girl (talk) 10:22, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the AKC is pretty inconsistent about how they've translated the names of the breeds, (Akita, Hokkaido dog, Shiba Inu, Kishu Ken. etc) but that's what they and other organizations (ANKC, CKC) have called the breed.Mccunicano 10:31, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The Japanese Kennel Club and the FCI call the dog simply "Shiba" - it is unclear why the US and Canadian kennel clubs get to decide its name here on the English-speaking Wikipedia. William Harris (talk) 04:14, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Because of COMMONNAME. These publications by the Japanese Kennel Club 1 2 refer to the breed as 柴犬 in Japanese and Shiba Inu in English.  ❯❯❯ Mccunicano ☕️  08:02, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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