Talk:Shibe Park

older comments
If it's not currently a Good Article, how is it GA class? CynicalMe 08:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It has been mislabled.Medvedenko 19:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

History
I don't know if it was I or what but the last paragraph left me with the believe source of info was not correct. I was born and raised on 20th St., nine houses from the staduim. Yes we got many baseballs in our backyard. But the paragraph states it "sat empty and unwanted for the better part of six years, suffering fire on August 20, 1971..". I was born in 1965 and remember attending games from ages 4-6 with my family. So the stadium was NOT closed down. Philly Bro (talk) 10:20, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The last game was in 1970. The fire was in 1971. It sat until 1976 and was finally demolished. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 10:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I lived in the neighborhood too, and it pretty much broke my heart when the Phillies moved all the way down to Broad and Snyder. But move they did, and the park sat empty for years, just the way the article reports it. In fact, the admission gates were all broken open and Connie Mack Stadium went from major league ball park to back street short cut. My friends and I walked across the feild routinely on our way to and from St. Columba's Grade School. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.210.32.5 (talk) 00:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

July 2011: Owner entry in infobox
In the entry for Owners, the infobox had listed the A's as owners from 1909-1954, then the Phillies as owners from 1955-1970; this is incorrect. Bob Carpenter owned it personally (through his paper company 21st and Lehigh Realty Co. from '55–'61, then NY developers owned it until Jerry Wolman bought it from them in 1964; Wolman sold the lot to the church in the '80s. The Phillies as a team never owned it, but were always just renters right up through 1970. All this seems far too complicated (and arcane) for an already beefy infobox, so I suggest we just leave these details out of the infobox. Any thoughts? — HarringtonSmith (talk) 21:44, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Aug 2011: Massive Infobox
Some recent additions to the infobox have turned it into one big, honkin' monolith. Are readers interested in year-by-year seating capacity and field dimensions? The MoS states ''the purpose of an infobox: to summarize key facts about the article in which it appears. The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance''. If these figures are indeed of interest to readers, then I'm all in favor of keeping them. They're just not so important to me. What do you think? — HarringtonSmith (talk) 21:39, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Deleted them. This user has been coming on and putting these lists in infoboxes for weeks now from various IPs. I keep asking him to stop to no avail. Gateman1997 (talk) 21:48, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I wondered if it was the same guy. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 21:51, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately he's hit about half the US stadiums on Wikipedia at one point or another so feel free to go through his history an delete any changes that haven't been undone on other pages yet. Gateman1997 (talk) 22:05, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Seating Capacity
I have commented-out (hidden) the recently-added seating capacity section because the figures in it disagree with most of the other sources used in the article, and more importantly, because they do not reflect expansion projects known to have occurred in given years. Whether a tabular listing of seating capacity over the years improves the article might also be discussed here, but until the figures themselves are reliable, the section cannot be displayed. User 12.139.96.228 posted the section and might be the best one to research the accuracy of the figures, although anyone who feels it's a valuable addition certainly could do the legwork also. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 18:25, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Good article nomination
I will admit that I was definitely a bit hesitant about nominating this article, and this is something I have never done before (am I doing this right?). I do, however, think that this is a very good article. Not only is it well-written, but it is well-illustrated, and it has pictures that really take the reader back to the old days. It is very in-depth, and goes beyond just baseball. This article was nominated as a featured article 5 years ago, and it did not pass, but I feel that this version of the article is much higher quality, and it is worth a shot. -- undefined07:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Discussion at GA: removal of many photos
A discussion of the removal of photos from the Shibe Park article is currently happening at the GA page. Editors interested in the quality of this article are urged to add their comments, pro or con, to the discussion. 173.49.170.222 (talk) 03:42, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Owner listing in infobox
I commented-out the "Owner" section of the infobox because there are several problems with it. First, the Phillies never owned the ballpark. Carpenter bought it personally from the A's through his "21st and Lehigh Realty Co." and he charged the Phillies rent, just as the A's had. Second, it is unclear whether Jerry Wolman bought it directly from 21st & Lehigh Realty or whether there was an interim ownership by a syndicate of New York investors (which may or may not have included Wolman). Finally, Kuklick states that Wolman retained ownership of the property even beyond its 1976 demolition and sold the property directly to the church — with Geppert Brothers (the demolition company) still holding a lien against their 1976 services.

There are too many things unclear — and just plain wrong — with the current 3-owner infobox listing to include it. It'll need some definitive cites for the period after 1960 before it could be reinstated. — 96.245.109.133 (talk) 13:40, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

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