Talk:Shin Kamen Rider (film)

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Why is the article titled "Shin Kamen Rider (film)" instead of simply Shin Kamen Rider? I suggest this article should be renamed to the latter title because the disambiguation page isn't really necessary per WP:DISAMBIG. We could delete the disambiguation page and just use  on this and the Shin Kamen Rider: Prologue articles. Eiga-Kevin2 (talk) 10:20, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 28 February 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 14:27, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

– Is the primary topic. Eiga-Kevin2 (talk) 9:29, 1 March 2023 (UTC) (Added associated page) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 04:01, 11 March 2023 (UTC)  — Relisting. From Bassie f (his talk page) 09:50, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Shin Kamen Rider (film) → Shin Kamen Rider
 * Shin Kamen Rider → deleted to make way for move


 *  Move Shin Kamen Rider (film) to Shin Kamen Rider (upcoming film) . The current title is [might be] ambiguous with the 1992 film, which is [would be] contrary to WP:NCFILM, and the other film is currently much more popular with readers. So if there is a primary topic, it is the other one . —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:09, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I no longer feel confident about my previous suggestion after learning that my pageview comparison was incorrect. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:44, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Do not move. The 1992 film has different title (Shin Kamen Rider: Prologue instead of just Shin Kamen Rider), but its titular character is probably notable enough to get his own page. Дейноніх (talk) 12:37, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Subtitles/title suffixes are often omitted when people refer to a work (e.g. see WP:SUBTITLES). If I understand correctly, for more than twenty thirty years, the "Prologue" film has been the only Shin Kamen Rider film. The fact that this is not an English-language work and that few sources in English appear to discuss it indicates that there is likely even less of a single clear accepted way to refer to that film. For more than 15 years, has been redirected to the 1992 film. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:38, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * There are various title variations, of course, but Shin Kamen Rider: Prologue is the one that is mostly used since it's the direct translation. It's obvious that Shin Kamen Rider was a redirect: either because of the titular character, or because it is shortened title while no other movie with «Shin Kamen Rider» in the title didn't exist. Now that we have actual Shin Kamen Rider, there's no reason for it to be a redirect. By that logic, every Kamen Rider series should use «Series title (TV series)» formula, because there are movies with the same characters where subtitle in the name can be dropped. Дейноніх (talk) 19:24, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Move Shin Kamen Rider (film) to Shin Kamen Rider (upcoming film) per BarrelProof. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:34, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping @Necrothesp, as BarrelProof has struck part of comment. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 10:41, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. There isn't any ambiguity, and even if there was the upcoming film is the clear primary topic. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 13:58, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Page views do not support the idea that the upcoming film is a primary topic for the term. The article about the 1992 film has much higher pageview numbers, despite the WP:RECENTISM effect for the upcoming film. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:38, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * (Replying to ) the 2023 page's views (191,793) have always been actually much higher in comparison to the 1992 film's (89,174) according to view recording that began in 2015. Eiga-Kevin2 (talk) 7:01, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry – I don't know what I did to get that so wrong. Strike-outs above. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * That's ok, I make mistakes like that sometimes as well. Anyway, do we now all agree by the rules stated in WP:DETERMINEPRIMARY that this page is the primary topic and therefore should be moved to the suggested title? Eiga-Kevin2 (talk) 04:37, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I want the history of the disambiguation page at Shin Kamen Rider (disambiguation), for two weeks. From Bassie f (his talk page) 20:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * What's the justification for that? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:02, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I want to propose deletion of the disambiguation page in 2 weeks. From Bassie f (his talk page) 07:05, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think I understand the topics enough to comment further. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:02, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Put a WP:PROD tag on the disambiguation page just now. From Bassie f (his talk page) 09:49, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * As you can see, there's no consensus which could justify the page's deletion. Дейноніх (talk) 12:18, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Eiga-Kevin2 (talk) 21:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Relisting comment: It’s been 9 days since the last re-list. From Bassie f (his talk page) 09:50, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I recommend to not move the Shin Kamen Rider disambiguation page to Shin Kamen Rider (disambiguation) as I recommend deleting that page because it only has 2 topics. From Bassie f (his talk page) 02:49, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Shin Kamen Rider reached 2 Billion Yen
It seems that Shin Kamen Rider has made their goal by reaching 2 billion yen on the Japanese Box Office last Sunday according to ANN.


 * Source: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-04-24/shin-kamen-rider-film-becomes-highest-earning-kamen-rider-film/.197411

punk_911 (talk) 8:08, 26 April 2023 (EDT)

Shin Masked Rider
As mentioned, Amazon Prime Video lists the film as "Shin Masked Rider". Is there a source if this is the official English title? Alaney2k (talk) 15:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Its been called Shin Masked Rider by official Japanese sources for a while (including here and here) but English sources have mostly called it Shin Kamen Rider. I think it needs further discussion or even a move request because Shin Masked Rider is now also its Prime title. Eiga-Kevin2 (talk) 21:54, 21 July 2023 (UTC)