Talk:Shiva Tandava Stotra

Apology
I removed the external links from this article believing that they did not fit WP:EL. I just read the following line from that link "An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a copy of the work if none of the 'Links normally to be avoided' criteria apply."

Which pretty much decides that the links do belong.

I apologize for not researching the guidelines for external links more thoroughly.

TheRingess (talk) 18:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Boon of invulnerability, Shiva or Brahma?
This article says that Shiva granted Ravana invulnerability. The Ravana article says it was Brahma. I know that different sources may say different things, but it would be useful to have the source. -- Q Chris (talk) 22:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Brahma had given a boon to Ravana that he would not be killed by devas, asuras, monkeys, demons etc., every creature except humans. After praising Shiva through the composition and singing of this strota, shiva gave him Chandrahas- his own sword. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akuap2001 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

missing two couplets verse
These verses are song by Anuradha Paudwal. Can anyone join them in the main poet.

Shiveti mantramuccaran-kada sukhi bhavamyaham

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Nilimpanatha-nagari-kadamba-maulimallika Nigumpha-nirjharaksharan-madhushnikamanoharah Tanotu no mano mudam vinodini-maharnisham Parashriyah parampadam tadangga-jatvi-shancayah
 * निलिम्प नाथ नागरी कदंब मौलिमल्लिका ||
 * निगुम्फ निर्झराक्षरण मधुश्निका मनोहरह: ||
 * तनोतु नो  मनो मुदम विनोदिनी महर्निशम ||
 * परश्रीयाय परम्पदम तदंग जटवि शान्कया ||

Pracanda-vadava-nala-prabhasubha-pracarini Mahashtha-siddhi-kamini-janavahuta-jalpana Vimukta-vama-locana-vivaha-kalika-dhvanih Shiveti-mantrabhushana-jagajjayaya jayatam --
 * प्रचंड वडन नाल प्रभसुभ प्रचारिणी ||
 * महस्थ सिद्धी कामिनी जनवहुता जल्पना ||
 * विमुक्त वाम लोचना विवाह कालिका ध्वनी : ||
 * शिवेति मंत्र भूषण जग्गत जयाय जायतां ||

mam hi nityamevamuktamuttamottamam stavam

Word Spacing
I wanted to know if the spacing between English words should be like the Sanskrit notation or should let it be as is. I personally want to let the spacing be as is because its easy to learn or to read, but keeping it like the Sanskrit version is makes it more accurate. For example, "जटाटवीगलज्जलप्रवाहपावितस्थले" will not translate to "Jata tavee gala jala pravaha pavithas thale" and instead will be read as "Jatataveegalajalpravahapavithasthale". It will be one word, just like the Sanskrit text instead of wrongly splitting into 7 different English words. (I say wrong because they're not all split according to rules of "Sandhis" and "Samasas") Let me know how it should be, I'm confused myself. Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks. D437 (talk) 22:50, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

In my opinion, the words should be split because those who are not familiar with Sanskrit or Hindi won't know the pronunciation breaks if the whole thing is just one word. However, the "Hunterian" parts need some improvement if the objective is to produce the same pronunciation. For example, in the first line/word, "gala jala" would be "galaj jala" and "pavithas thale" would be "paavita sthale". Ishu bagaria (talk) 18:28, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Removed article needs more citations
I added lot of citations and have removed the message on top of page asking for more citations. I am new to Wikipedia so if someone disagrees, please let me know.Gambler (talk) 16:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Added back the translation
So I am new to Wikipedia and in order to improve this page, I added translation from some site. The site had copyright material and my change was reverted. I do not contest that change. I have, however, added back the translation that existed before my change. I suppose it should be ok because that translation existed for a long time. Let me know if you disagree. Gambler (talk) 16:50, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Removed text
I removed the entire text of the Stotra per WP:NOTLYRICS. It is salvaged below - please feel free to copy it to Wikisources. — kashmīrī  TALK  16:53, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Query to the removal of text: Deleting this section would remove two critical aspects -- Pronunciation and Meaning -- of the said lines. Consider that this is not just a song, but a rare example of early Sanskrit verse not derived from Vedas or its associated sources. If you'd still insist that the section be deleted, please find a way to restore the Meaning of the verses to the given article and a create the Wikisource page. Otherwise, the quality of article is affected adversely by the deletion. Pats (talk) 13:33, 27 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, judging from the style it is not really "early Sanskrit", I don't know whether anyone has tried to date this verse but to me it doesn't really feel earlier than the beginnings of Christian era. But that's a minor detail and I agree that there is a lot that can be written about its style, e.g., about a skillful use of assonance. Still, a Wikipedia article is not the place to store entire texts; Wikisource has been created precisely for that purpose. — kashmīrī  TALK  16:42, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

The entire text is not large enough compared to the length of the article. There are no copyright infringement issues. This article answers the questions on the meaning and pronunciation of an otherwise difficult Sanskrit hymn. The phrasing of these shlokas is smiliar to the song-like shlokas from Saam Veda, which was written between 1500-1000 BCE. There is little reason to make this article suffer by removing relevant content.


 * Full text is available on Wikisources here. — kashmīrī  TALK  20:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC)