Talk:Shivalli

Havyakas also have the same origins
Are Tulu Brahmins related to Havyakas? Havyakas claim they were the first Brahmins to coastal Karnataka, followed by Tulu Brahmins. I suppose not only in the language(Havyakas speak a dialect of Kannada with more old Kannada influence and Shivallis speak Tulu with high Sanskrit and that of course give credibility to Havyaks claim that they are the oldest Brahmins in this region.)these two groups differ in many other respects(Shivallis were mostly feudal and Havyakas did till the land). --Manjunatha (14 Oct 2005)